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      100% agree, but I think it’s worth mentioning that 2G is very insecure (you can sniff and spoof with a grand or two of hardware), so incentivizing people to get off of it is not that bad imo

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    Aren’t loads of embedded devices still using the old school edge network? Like car remote systems, electric meters, weather stations, etc?

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      This will force many of those to upgrade their current technology (which also helps Roger/Fido because they offer the upgrading services) or pay the fee.

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        Creating tons of needless ewaste and forcing users to re-buy otherwise working devices.

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      Yes. That’s the point of this fee, to nudge people to upgrade those decades old systems that are forcing the carriers to maintain old (and much less spectrum efficient) equipment (with no parts support from the manufacturer any more).

      They had to do similar to push the same stragglers off the old 1G (analog/TDMA) network 15 years ago.

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          They have enough money to support those systems

          Even if they can’t get spare parts or repaired modules or software updates from the manufacturer any more?

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            Yeah the corp with 75Billion profit last year doesn’t have enough to fabricate parts or hire programmers, lol

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    Good, there is only so much radio spectrum to go around might as well push people off of 2G and open it up.

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    How are these chucklefucks still with clients at this point? I’ve been on freedom for well over a decade. Which means I’ve saved thousands of dollars.

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      They borrow Rogers lines and towers. I called to see if they can give me a better deal then Rogers, they can if I want slower internet speeds, and less data on my phone. I think the only thing they would allow me to do, is call my brother on the border without getting charged.

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        Who cares its plenty fast. Pages load instantly. Most people have no idea how many GB or how much throughout they need.

        I’m mostly on WiFi so whatever.

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          I use mobile/home internet. I was talking about home internet speeds. I know how much internet download and upload I need.

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    I know a lot of posts in the thread are criticising Rogers for being greedy, and don’t mistake me, they are, but this is common in enterprise space.

    This fee is ment to spur the last hold outs onto the new network or pay for what is essentially long term support.

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    What I would like to do is get a hold of the 2g gear and make town-local wireless for rural towns. It would be dog slow, but you could keep people reasonable connected for pretty cheap.

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      Even if you got the hardware for free, the operating costs are far more than you might expect.

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          Power is one factor.

          Spectrum licensing is also not cheap.

          And you still need software support from the manufacturer to actually make that hardware function, and they don’t support old hardware forever (another reason the carriers are shutting down the old network)