Do you condone or condemn the use of the term by… goys 😂
I understand the tentativeness to use the term but I’ve yet to see a fully articulated argument for it being fascist/reactionary ect.
Personally choosing to avoid it is sensible but denouncing other people without being able to establish why its wrong is… questionable.
Unlike other slurs like the n word, there isnt an established consensus on it. I would understand not giving a more sophisticated explanation for the denouncing of the use of the n word by a white person because its well established why its a slur. But goy is a different circumstance given its only recent rise in the western lexicon. “Me no like”, “4chan uses it” doesn’t hold water.
All I’ve really heard is reactionaries use it therefore you cant. Reactionaries also use Liberal, and woke. But obviously such terms are perfectly acceptable. (Woke as in a radlib ect).
Surely Palestinians, Muslims, ect are permissed, who is not?
How does it compare to technically ableist language like idiot, moron ect. I don’t see people policing such language at any level comparable to goy.
IMO the increase in the use of the word is net good and basically irrelevant. Making it into a bigger issue is counterproductive.
What can I say… I’m just a goy after all.
If Palestinians read this post I’m sure they’d be happy to hear that the imperial core is taking on the important issues like tone policing, and an examination of language fringe, irrelevant groypers use😍. /s
I just read your responses to opiumfree post and honestly, by the way that you got hyperdefensive by misinterpreting their post as “everyone that uses the term goy is a reactionary”, and the fact you deemed the pfp a “thrist trap”, and brought up reddit drama from months ago it makes you seem extremely childish at best and a incel at worst.
I think you are the one that should put more effort into your posts.
Idk I’m just trying to be thorough and transparent. As I’m toeing a fine line.
I typed a response to theyre implicit accusation of me being an incel but my phone restarted before i posted it. Maybe I’ll re type it. But for brevities sake I referred to it in that way presuming that they’re fed. As in if the feds were to make a profile why wouldn’t they use a “thirst trap” as the PFP, and slap on a Soviet hat on to call it a day. Honeypot esque. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with referring to it that way. If I had a brad pit PFP and someone referred to it that way that would be fair. They’re profile just stuck out to me as “hello fellow kids” like.
Plus its frustrating that were getting hung up on one word I used, missing the forest for the trees. Only serves to derail the conversation.
However ill push back on me being “hyperdefensive”. Im trying to be as transparent as possible because I feel it would be worse to make this admittedly inflammatory post/comment but just leave it that. I’m just trying to air out my motivations so it doesn’t have presumed. I understand it makes me look worse and hyperdefensive but Id prefer that than the contrary.
And no I wasnt "misinterpreting their post as “everyone that uses the term goy is a reactionary”
In my other comment: “The phrasing of your low effort post is… poor. I think it would be better to have asked if using the term is reactionary in the first place. Instead of conflating it with reactionaries from the beginning.”
Idk… I really just want to see more principled discussions and was annoyed with the replies more so than the post itself. I prefer to lurk, reading more informed opinions than my own. I’ll go back to lurking after this lol.
I was disappointed to see confident yet lazy statements, and presumptuous personal attacks that im a sexist or reactionary and that’s its self evident thereby uskng thst to discredit anything else I said
Its not “drama” from the past I was trying to establish a track record of them holding ignorant opinions and behaving fed like. The first interaction I had I said:
“Bot detected. 25 day old account 8 karma, 400 contributions, pfp is some thirst trap with a poorly edited ussr (hat) on top. Or just dome freak (as opposed to a bot) regardless whyre you posting so much if you don’t know what you’re talking about.” In response to them saying
“They also use North Korean soldiers. I feel very sad for those poor souls despite them being technically on the enemy side, they are mostly clueless”
On shitliberalssay
Shouldn’t have called them a freak, idrk what I meant tho it was awhile ago. I guess It just gave weird parasocial gooner adolescent vibes cuz it was reddit after all. And with that PFP I called them a freak, as I think many people would, quite the contrary to me being an incel. It felt like they were incel like themselves. But I apologize for saying that based off assumptions I made.
If your profile pic was a pic of Brad Pitt in a soviet hat, I would assume you were a fan of Brad Pitt and the Soviets. I would not assume you were a well-kempt older man trying to appeal to me through a shared love of the Soviets, or a federal agent attempting to use that angle to ensnare me. I promise you, an idol edit pfp almost guarantees that the user is simply a young person who is into kpop. Probably a young woman. I find the conclusions you jumped to utterly bizarre and I hope you take the mod’s advice.