Do you condone or condemn the use of the term by… goys 😂
I understand the tentativeness to use the term but I’ve yet to see a fully articulated argument for it being fascist/reactionary ect.
Personally choosing to avoid it is sensible but denouncing other people without being able to establish why its wrong is… questionable.
Unlike other slurs like the n word, there isnt an established consensus on it. I would understand not giving a more sophisticated explanation for the denouncing of the use of the n word by a white person because its well established why its a slur. But goy is a different circumstance given its only recent rise in the western lexicon. “Me no like”, “4chan uses it” doesn’t hold water.
All I’ve really heard is reactionaries use it therefore you cant. Reactionaries also use Liberal, and woke. But obviously such terms are perfectly acceptable. (Woke as in a radlib ect).
Surely Palestinians, Muslims, ect are permissed, who is not?
How does it compare to technically ableist language like idiot, moron ect. I don’t see people policing such language at any level comparable to goy.
IMO the increase in the use of the word is net good and basically irrelevant. Making it into a bigger issue is counterproductive.
What can I say… I’m just a goy after all.
If Palestinians read this post I’m sure they’d be happy to hear that the imperial core is taking on the important issues like tone policing, and an examination of language fringe, irrelevant groypers use😍. /s
im from a pro NATO state and only became aware to things earlier last year. back then the narrative was that russia was abducting people. of course i know its not true now. its so disingenuous to paint me as a fed simply because i had stupid beliefs when i was on that subreddit for merely WEEKS.
You will encounter a lot of paranoia on the left, this is mostly for good reason because there’s a lot of infiltration and interference in political spaces. But it also often becomes disruptive in itself because people can get caught up in hunting spies and engaging in recriminations which ultimately just sows division and makes working together harder. Best thing to do with suspected spies is to give them a lot of non-sensitive work to do, if they do it well great, work was done. If they do it badly then you clearly shouldn’t be giving them sensitive stuff to do anyway. For everyone else not being provoked and disrupted is the same whether the person is well meaning but struggling (with ptsd from real spies, from unrelated mental health issues, with just having a disruptive personality, from being misguided etc) or actually trying to disrupt.
i relate to this and im also paranoid but this Cletus person is leaving out context and assuming things
So am I,
Idek what subreddit your talking about. That’s not what I took issue with. It was a matter of lack of due diligence, the way things were stated, “I’m just asking questions” and honest to God your profile pic lmao. Personally, if I have low confidence in my beliefs I just lurk, or preface them with something explicitly demonstrating so.
Maybe it was wrong for me to hastily paint you as such. Which I admitted. I was just floating the idea. Mostly for other people to scrutinize posts on here more, and how they interact with them. Your posts are self admittedly vague and inflammatory after all.
I view this platform as of higher quality than reddit. When I saw your post I was surprised with how people responded. What I’ve done is more inflammatory than what you did. But… that’s just how I’m able to prompt a more in depth discussion on the matter. For example on your post someone said it was fascist, I asked how, they replied with a guardian article from 2017 that just loosely talked about 4chan, irony poisoning, and “fascism” while using the term very loosely without defining it. Nowhere was goy mentioned, or how its fascist. They didn’t care to elaborate as it turned out.
I guess I’m tired of people making statements without corroborating them. Especially on this matter when its tone policing ostensibly anti zionist language used by the general public which I see as good.
Anyways, I actually like most of your comment’s in general. After this post I won’t have a vendetta or anything against you. I was lashing out because I was annoyed with how the community was responding to your post, not you personally.
PS
How does moderation work on here, why was my comment removed.
https://lemmygrad.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=12614079
Basically any mod action here is going to be in the modlog.
Am I reading it right that the reason given was I was fedposting?
Thanks tho
I wouldn’t have called it “fedposting” but yeah, fedjacketing someone without proof is, ironically enough, fed behavior.
You can see the rules when you hit “sidebar” at the top of the page in most browsers. Most communities have additional rules, but these are the basic site rules. I’d say yours falls under rule 3, but I don’t have any connection to the mod team. You don’t need to contact the mods for this.
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you got your comment removed bc i did nothing wrong and you came at me bringing up stupid shit from a separate platform. and i do have a problem with you bc u fucked with me and brought up random shit that happened months ago, put words in my mouth, took my comments out of context AND to top it all off you completely misinterpreted my original post asking about the language of NEO NAZIS in particular. not of the general public, not of the palestinians.
if u dont have anything personal with me then why make it personal by bringing up so much crap. its clearly personal because you remember so much about me while i do not know you at all
Smh
“its clearly personal because you remember so much about me while i do not know you at all”
“brought up random shit that happened months ago, put words in my mouth, took my comments out of context”
This is contradicting. I didn’t “remember” anything I went and found our dms that you initiated so I could accurately recount the context and what was said verbatim. The complete opposite of putting words of putting words in your mouth.
Not only that but you’ve been the only one to make personal judgements here. And outright lied about our interaction on reddit.
"its not an ”ig model” its a daniela from katseye… i explained this to u the first time u accused me of having a ”thirst trap” as a profile photo. why are you so worked up over my fucking daniela profile pic? why is a woman existing considered a thirst trap to you? "
You never explained who your PFP was that’s a fabrication.
Made it personal by saying I have a “problem with women just existing” which falls apart upon examining the context. Yet I’m somehow the the one leaving context out. I have no issue with that woman or the photo.
“bringing up random shit from month ago”. Aren’t you doing the same by mentioning that i called it a “thirst trap” devoid of any context.
In all of my replies I’ve at least put in some effort instead of just saying what sounds best.
Infact i quoted myself in full calling you a “freak” which i easily could’ve ommitted. I’ve been good faith in representing what happened accurately even when it made me look bad.
Fine I’m wrong, sexist and reactionary, but at least I’m honest.
Could you please elaborate, im new here and i honestly struggle to read the room lol.
What is wrong with opiumfree pfp? I actuallly think its the best pfp on the site.
-less liberals/irrelavant topics, plus many are here because they were banned from reddit for being to based.
-in other thread of yours
But to add
Nothing wrong with it in and of itself, I just thought it was strange in conjunction when a freshly created reddit account with 8k karma 400 contributions, was saying liberal stuff, about russia, while having a soviet hat in there pfp. Already having a personal brand so to speak. Its generally only informative, long time users that have decent pfp especially on reddit. It seemed inorganic / exactly what feds would do if they were running an account.
Was due to the totality of the circumstances