Its not a matter of convincing them if they’re dependant. Its a matter of making it economical and accessible. Plus the practices used by Mongolia for example are much more humane, efficient, and ecologically sustainable compared to the west. I don’t take much issue with a small rural country that treats animals with respect and where everyone is exposed to the killing of the animals and has great appreciation for them. From a purely moral standpoint I understand. But I just dont see the relevance in brining it up. The bigger issue is that countries with diverse and affordable vegan options still choose to consume meat at comparable rates to Mongolia. US and Australia actually consume more meat per capita than Mongolia depending on the data source. World population review has it at 131 (Mongolia) and 122 (USA) kg/person.
USA (while being a net importer) has 85m cattle stock vs 5m in Mongolia. The larger the animal the less efficient / more damaging it is for the environment. Although I concede that Mongolia eats more lamb than beef. Additionally the conditions in which American livestock are kept is reprehensible.
Brazil has 285 million cattle. Their exports have doubled since 2019. While slash and burning forest to clear new land for cattle. This is due almost exclusively due to American demand.
Its easy to finger wag Brazil for enabling those actions but it wouldn’t be the case if it wasn’t for gluttonous Americans.
It is the same thing as telling the global south ect to stop using oil etc while having no ground to stand on. Unless your Chinese lol.
Lastly switching to widespread veganism on paper doesn’t necessarily improve shit for the global south. I’d much prefer if Mongolia continued as is than if everyone became vegan if it meant conditions like this. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zV9v0RIE-iI&pp=ygUMUGxhc3RpYyB0b2Z1
(Indonesians burning american plastic to cook tofu, filled with mircroplastic)
Its not a matter of convincing them if they’re dependant. Its a matter of making it economical and accessible. Plus the practices used by Mongolia for example are much more humane, efficient, and ecologically sustainable compared to the west. I don’t take much issue with a small rural country that treats animals with respect and where everyone is exposed to the killing of the animals and has great appreciation for them. From a purely moral standpoint I understand. But I just dont see the relevance in brining it up. The bigger issue is that countries with diverse and affordable vegan options still choose to consume meat at comparable rates to Mongolia. US and Australia actually consume more meat per capita than Mongolia depending on the data source. World population review has it at 131 (Mongolia) and 122 (USA) kg/person.
USA (while being a net importer) has 85m cattle stock vs 5m in Mongolia. The larger the animal the less efficient / more damaging it is for the environment. Although I concede that Mongolia eats more lamb than beef. Additionally the conditions in which American livestock are kept is reprehensible.
Brazil has 285 million cattle. Their exports have doubled since 2019. While slash and burning forest to clear new land for cattle. This is due almost exclusively due to American demand.
Its easy to finger wag Brazil for enabling those actions but it wouldn’t be the case if it wasn’t for gluttonous Americans.
It is the same thing as telling the global south ect to stop using oil etc while having no ground to stand on. Unless your Chinese lol.
Lastly switching to widespread veganism on paper doesn’t necessarily improve shit for the global south. I’d much prefer if Mongolia continued as is than if everyone became vegan if it meant conditions like this. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zV9v0RIE-iI&pp=ygUMUGxhc3RpYyB0b2Z1 (Indonesians burning american plastic to cook tofu, filled with mircroplastic)
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