cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/69737327

My wife and I are straight allies, and we’re doing three vendor markets next month that are Pride themed. I think I’ve put together a good Pride playlist, but I’m looking for suggestions! They have to be family friendly (no explicit tags, no profanity, no crude language, etc.). So nothing from Hazbin Hotel or Alien Stage!

The image is the playlist cover. I took the Wikipedia Pride flag and added text. Pretty easy.

I can’t share the playlist because Apple Music will attach my real name to it. They used to just use a nickname I entered, but now they insist on using my full government! So that’s a no can do.

I’ve got Queen. I’ve got Elton John. Got some Harry Styles. I got a lot of songs that aren’t necessarily associated with the LGBTQ+ movement but feature themes of love against odds and love winning, people who don’t fit in but stay strong, etc.

All suggestions are welcome and appreciated, even if it’s already on the list.

And if anyone knows how to share an Apple Music playlist anonymously (could do screenshots) let me know!

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    23 hours ago

    If you’re straight please do more than putting up some pride flag and theme songs as an excuse to generate profit from “support” for lgbt people. Lgbt people are not a costume your business should put on to generate some sales, if you mean what you say about being an ally then your involvement should go beyond that.

    • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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      23 hours ago

      Oh, she doesn’t come close to making a profit, she barely breaks even on booth fees, yarn costs, and all that. She really just does it for fun. We have jobs, we do alright but we’re not profiting off anyone but our own hard work. I think she could sell her stuff for 2-3 times as much, but she just likes doing it and likes connecting with people.

      And I’m an ally because I have friends and family who are LGBTQ+, including my mom. I got as much right to celebrate it as anyone. Being straight and not gay or bi or trans has nothing to do with it. I believe love is love and LGBTQ+ people deserve to be as happy as anyone, because it just seems like the decent way to be and I don’t wanna be someone who isn’t at least decent.

      • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        71·
        22 hours ago

        That is all idealism, I’m talking about materialism, we are materialists here. What actual material thing are you doing for lgbt people other than wearing an lgbt costume as a prerequisite to sell merchandise? That isn’t an actual act that helps lgbt people, it’s putting on some cosplay to sell stuff.

        What I’m saying is that you should be doing something that materially helps lgbt people, not just wearing our flag to sell things.

        Let’s frame this a different way - Imagine rocking up to an event about cancer research, wearing a pink ribbon, selling merch, and not actually doing anything material at all for cancer research.

        The people below in the thread responding with “capitalist-woke” are saying the same thing but aren’t bothering to put it into clear words or explanation, they’re just saying what a lot of people are thinking via the emoji. I’m trying to nicely explain why some people don’t like this.

        • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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          35 minutes ago

          It doesn’t really help either way. We’re still gonna go out there. We may not be LGBTQ+ but we have family members who are. I know a lot of people mistrust straight allies or they see straight people in their space as an invitation for opponents to infiltrate as well. “May as well have stayed in the closet.” Well I don’t agree with that. So we’re out there to support something we believe in.

          What are we doing? What is anyone doing? We vote. We’re volunteering our time, selling some cool stuff at a loss because we believe in the community… what we’re not doing is attacking people online for trying to help. What we’re not doing is attacking allies for not being “enough”. Inclusivity vs exclusivity. We’re both a part of the community whether you and others like it or not. I’m there for my mother, my stepmother, my nephew, and many friends I’ve made over the years who fell onto the LGBTQ+ spectrum. We don’t have to justify our inclusion any more than anyone else. We’re all there to celebrate the progress the community has made.

          There will be MLMs there selling candles and tupperware and scented wax and other shit they didn’t make, they’re just drop shipping stuff. So yeah, we might make money but it barely covers the booth fee most of the time. I ask my wife why she does it if she’s not making a profit. She says she loves to do it.

          What are you doing? What more do you suggest we do? Or do you just think we shouldn’t do it at all? Because that’s off the table. You’re not talking to the person who’s doing this, you’re talking to the one who’s carrying the bags. And I’m not gonna not support my wife. And I’m not telling her that some random people on the Internet say she shouldn’t do it because she’s not working at enough of a loss. She’s more worried about the actual people who might wish the community harm, who might roll through with big trucks and cause real world violence. But even with that possibility, she’s still going to do it, and I’m still going to support her. Some anonymous haters on the Fediverse aren’t going to change that.

  • soyaEnjoyer [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    131·
    1 day ago

    tbh i don’t like a single thing about your post

    the event is not for you. profiting from us is not for you. the music you’re suggesting honestly feels like you’re taking the piss. you claim to be an ally, but what have you done to help us?

    • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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      23 hours ago

      Well, the city is doing Pride themed stuff all month. The vendor market is for people who make stuff to come sell it. Typically some of it has to be Pride themed. My wife sells crocheted stuff for far less than she maybe could given how much time she spends on it. She barely sells it for more than the yarn is worth. She just likes doing it and meeting new people and hanging out. I just help with the heavy lifting (table, tent) and setup, and keeping her company.

    • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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      23 hours ago

      Oh yeah I wanted a Green Day song or three, but I hadn’t added any. I was thinking Gloria, Last of the American Girls, those songs. Bobby Sox is a great one. Never heard of Pale Waves but I like what I’m hearing. Both added.