I’ve tried to reply in good faith to every single person who has responded with a modicum of kindness. Well, it’s still a work in progress, I’ve got like 18 notifications still after probably 25ish replies, and I’ll pop this short one off the list before I disengage for today.
You wanna actually try to discuss the topic? I’m happy to have a polite discussion, as you can see me doing many times in this thread if you look around. If you wanna just insult me and put words in my mouth? I’m gonna tell you to get fucked and move on, it’s not worth my time to devote more to a response like that.
You’ve had the fatal flaws in your thinking calmly explained to you a dozen times over, and simply refuse to acknowledge it. Then, once people stop being so remarkably patient with you, you take that friction as an excuse to retreat into adolescent hostility.
“Reply in good faith” yeah man only the most good faith people have to say it out loud.
If you were here in good faith, you would answer people’s critique in a way that isn’t just “uhh well we can’t do anything or even think about doing anything until the blue Hitler party is back in power.”
I’ve probably received over 50 replies in this thread. I’ve taken the time to respond to as many of them as I can, so long as they’re more than just vapid insults. My apologies if my failure to put my life on hold to read everything ASAP has irritated you. I’ve tried to respond to people in the order they replied to me, and that means I may not have read a response that came later, even if it’s getting a little old by the time I get to it.a
“Reply in good faith” yeah man only the most good faith people have to say it out loud.
I’m trying to get the vitriol to calm down. Some people, a precious few of them who responded, have taken the time to look past their irritation to calmly, genuinely, and without insult, ask quality question about the things I’ve said that have been able to make me reconsider it. Some have even brought some great evidence for their claims and as reasoning for their questions, which really made me stop and consider some things.
Then, there’s people like you. People who want to hurl insults constantly. Who want to assume the worst of me. Who assume everyone has as much time as them to study up, to reply to a torrent of pissed off internet comments, to do something about it. And I don’t mean that in some belittling way, as if I’m better than you because I’m so busy doing Important Things. I’m not. I’m trying to stay fed and sheltered, and it’s taking up a shitload of my time. I’m genuinely happy that some people have the opportunity to learn about it and do something about it. I just can’t do as much as some of you with the constraints life has put on me. What do I get for that? I get belittled for not having already done the work you all already did. Unfortunately, when I had the time, I didn’t have the exposure and background to ask the right questions, and now, I have the exposure and background to give me the inclination to engage and give the ideas a shot, but I don’t have the opportunity to study extensively.
Despite that, when I accidentally wander into an unfamiliar community that federated to my instance and very quickly realized from the responses that it was full of people with a very different viewpoint, I hung around and hoped that if I tried to engage without being the first to hurl insults, maybe someone would make a good point or, better yet, bring some quality evidence or study material. Maybe I could learn a little bit about why they think the way they do. On that front, I’d say talking with people like you has been an utter waste of my time, except that it has occasionally given someone else the opportunity to step in and give me what I stayed to look for.
If you were here in good faith, you would answer people’s critique in a way that isn’t just “uhh well we can’t do anything or even think about doing anything until the blue Hitler party is back in power.”
See, now this? This is an utterly bad faith argument here because I explicitly said not that SO MANY FUCKING TIMES. Everyone here is pretending I said to just vote and then stick my thumb up my ass until they win. That’s not what I fucking said. I said to spend just a couple hours every year or two, depending on your local election schedule, voting for whoever among the candidates has a genuine chance of winning and will be most pliable to your other efforts. After the vote is cast, go do whatever you think will be most productive towards your goals. Organize. Protest. Boycott. I could probably get away with listing some more extreme options here on Hexbear, but you should get the point by now and be able to extrapolate. Everyone in here is sure they know the best way, so fine, let’s assume your judgment is right on that front, at least.
I’m not interested in engaging with the vitriol on this topic anymore. I tried it, and not a single one of the rampant assholes has managed to say anything to make a serious impact. The people who weren’t assholes had a decent chance to make a good point, so my takeaway is that the assholes aren’t worth engaging with any longer than it takes to establish a point and give the people with a more skilled touch a chance to step in. I admit I’ve taken the bait and matched energy with people I shouldn’t have, probably even was the first to get heated or a little rude a few times. For that, I am sorry. Matching sarcasm to sarcasm is satisfying in the moment, but as I’ve seen, it accomplishes nothing. I made no ground with them, and they made no ground with me.
I still have a couple notifications for other messages from you that I haven’t gotten to, but at a quick glance, it’s just the same vitriol, so I’m just gonna clear those and ignore them. Because I’m here with a genuine and open willingness to learn, despite what you may try to claim about me, if you’d like to make any remarks or provide any sources you think would be worth looking at, I would still like to consider them. But if you start berating and insulting me again, I’m just going to invite you to go fuck yourself with a rusty rake and block you. You might see me around in here if wander in on accident again or come in out of curiosity, but I’ll remain blissfully unaware of your shit ass.
I’ve tried to respond to people in the order they replied to me, and that means I may not have read a response that came later, even if it’s getting a little old by the time I get to it.
This is a ridiculous way to interact with a thread, especially one in which you’re getting a lot of replies in a short amount of time. You should read first, then respond to only a few, only the ones that need response.
But because of your puzzling and wrongheaded decisions, I’ve gotten to read some absolute banger writing from Chana, so that’s been nice for me. Of course, it has been interspersed with your repetitive drivel, so that’s slightly less fun. (Your comments wouldn’t be so repetitive and pointless if you read first, commented selectively after. Please give it a go, you’ll waste less of your, and everyone else’s, time)
I’ve tried to reply in good faith to every single person who has responded with a modicum of kindness. Well, it’s still a work in progress, I’ve got like 18 notifications still after probably 25ish replies, and I’ll pop this short one off the list before I disengage for today.
You wanna actually try to discuss the topic? I’m happy to have a polite discussion, as you can see me doing many times in this thread if you look around. If you wanna just insult me and put words in my mouth? I’m gonna tell you to get fucked and move on, it’s not worth my time to devote more to a response like that.
You’ve had the fatal flaws in your thinking calmly explained to you a dozen times over, and simply refuse to acknowledge it. Then, once people stop being so remarkably patient with you, you take that friction as an excuse to retreat into adolescent hostility.
“Reply in good faith” yeah man only the most good faith people have to say it out loud.
If you were here in good faith, you would answer people’s critique in a way that isn’t just “uhh well we can’t do anything or even think about doing anything until the blue Hitler party is back in power.”
I’ve probably received over 50 replies in this thread. I’ve taken the time to respond to as many of them as I can, so long as they’re more than just vapid insults. My apologies if my failure to put my life on hold to read everything ASAP has irritated you. I’ve tried to respond to people in the order they replied to me, and that means I may not have read a response that came later, even if it’s getting a little old by the time I get to it.a
I’m trying to get the vitriol to calm down. Some people, a precious few of them who responded, have taken the time to look past their irritation to calmly, genuinely, and without insult, ask quality question about the things I’ve said that have been able to make me reconsider it. Some have even brought some great evidence for their claims and as reasoning for their questions, which really made me stop and consider some things.
Then, there’s people like you. People who want to hurl insults constantly. Who want to assume the worst of me. Who assume everyone has as much time as them to study up, to reply to a torrent of pissed off internet comments, to do something about it. And I don’t mean that in some belittling way, as if I’m better than you because I’m so busy doing Important Things. I’m not. I’m trying to stay fed and sheltered, and it’s taking up a shitload of my time. I’m genuinely happy that some people have the opportunity to learn about it and do something about it. I just can’t do as much as some of you with the constraints life has put on me. What do I get for that? I get belittled for not having already done the work you all already did. Unfortunately, when I had the time, I didn’t have the exposure and background to ask the right questions, and now, I have the exposure and background to give me the inclination to engage and give the ideas a shot, but I don’t have the opportunity to study extensively.
Despite that, when I accidentally wander into an unfamiliar community that federated to my instance and very quickly realized from the responses that it was full of people with a very different viewpoint, I hung around and hoped that if I tried to engage without being the first to hurl insults, maybe someone would make a good point or, better yet, bring some quality evidence or study material. Maybe I could learn a little bit about why they think the way they do. On that front, I’d say talking with people like you has been an utter waste of my time, except that it has occasionally given someone else the opportunity to step in and give me what I stayed to look for.
See, now this? This is an utterly bad faith argument here because I explicitly said not that SO MANY FUCKING TIMES. Everyone here is pretending I said to just vote and then stick my thumb up my ass until they win. That’s not what I fucking said. I said to spend just a couple hours every year or two, depending on your local election schedule, voting for whoever among the candidates has a genuine chance of winning and will be most pliable to your other efforts. After the vote is cast, go do whatever you think will be most productive towards your goals. Organize. Protest. Boycott. I could probably get away with listing some more extreme options here on Hexbear, but you should get the point by now and be able to extrapolate. Everyone in here is sure they know the best way, so fine, let’s assume your judgment is right on that front, at least.
I’m not interested in engaging with the vitriol on this topic anymore. I tried it, and not a single one of the rampant assholes has managed to say anything to make a serious impact. The people who weren’t assholes had a decent chance to make a good point, so my takeaway is that the assholes aren’t worth engaging with any longer than it takes to establish a point and give the people with a more skilled touch a chance to step in. I admit I’ve taken the bait and matched energy with people I shouldn’t have, probably even was the first to get heated or a little rude a few times. For that, I am sorry. Matching sarcasm to sarcasm is satisfying in the moment, but as I’ve seen, it accomplishes nothing. I made no ground with them, and they made no ground with me.
I still have a couple notifications for other messages from you that I haven’t gotten to, but at a quick glance, it’s just the same vitriol, so I’m just gonna clear those and ignore them. Because I’m here with a genuine and open willingness to learn, despite what you may try to claim about me, if you’d like to make any remarks or provide any sources you think would be worth looking at, I would still like to consider them. But if you start berating and insulting me again, I’m just going to invite you to go fuck yourself with a rusty rake and block you. You might see me around in here if wander in on accident again or come in out of curiosity, but I’ll remain blissfully unaware of your shit ass.
You said you were going to stop replying for a day or two
This is a ridiculous way to interact with a thread, especially one in which you’re getting a lot of replies in a short amount of time. You should read first, then respond to only a few, only the ones that need response.
But because of your puzzling and wrongheaded decisions, I’ve gotten to read some absolute banger writing from Chana, so that’s been nice for me. Of course, it has been interspersed with your repetitive drivel, so that’s slightly less fun. (Your comments wouldn’t be so repetitive and pointless if you read first, commented selectively after. Please give it a go, you’ll waste less of your, and everyone else’s, time)