• AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip
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    25 days ago

    If we prove we’ll keep fucking electing republicans, yeah, we’re never getting anywhere. Voter suppression always favors republicans, and when republicans have a strong chance of victory, it’s a lot easier for democrats to campaign on not being republicans. Spend just one or two hours, just once every year or two at most depending on your jurisdiction, vote for one of the two candidates that is absolutely guaranteed to win because we use a first-past-the-post voting system, help us nudge things in the right direction just a little, even if it’s not as much as you want, and then go right back to whatever you think is going to be more helpful. If your vote didn’t matter, republicans wouldn’t try so damn hard to keep you from using it or getting it meaningfully counted.

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      25 days ago

      If we prove we’ll keep fucking electing republicans, yeah, we’re never getting anywhere

      You really aren’t getting it. Elections will never solve anything in the imperialist core. Electing anyone won’t ever get anyone anywhere in a capitalist society with billions of dollars floating around buying the elections. Open your fucking mind to new possibilities. I will send in a mail-in ballot if you join a communist organization and shut up and listen and do the reading and go to their events, how about that?

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        23 days ago

        I don’t know that I’m ready to join an organization, but I’m open to doing some reading if you’re willing to compromise a bit. I’ve read the Communist Manifesto, and I think it’s inevitably going to become reality, but I think we’ll only ever really achieve it if we can obtain it peacefully. We can’t build a collaborative society with violence, the tools of oppression. I understand the rage over the current state of things, but a society founded on violence can be transformed again through violence. It’ll be achieved once we can organize and act with enough unity to force it peacefully. Maybe a good book or two will change my mind. If you’ll compromise a bit, I’ll agree to read some material if you’ll vote, and I’ll compromise a bit by not pushing you to vote for one of the only two candidates who’s going to win.

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      11 days ago

      when republicans have a strong chance of victory, it’s a lot easier for democrats to campaign on not being republicans.

      And when Republicans have no chance of victory they don’t even need to do that.

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        10 days ago

        No, they have to contend with the primary instead at that point. If progressives and leftists would vote in elections and primaries instead of succumbing to electoral defeatism, we could keep Republicans out of power and drag one major party to the left.