The point people are trying to make to you is that democrats cannot be trusted to slow down genocide.
Correct, the democratic party will not stop Israel of their own free will. I’m not convinced they can’t be forced to, though. Hell, if republicans hated supporting Israel enough, the republicans could be forced to, too, but republicans love it, so not happening. The issue here isn’t so much their default stances as it is the fact that a large enough portion of the base is upset with them that we might be able to force them if we collectively tried instead of just giving up and assuming it’s impossible.
Your plan to force Democrats to “slow down” a genocide they’re causing is to promise to vote for them no matter what, especially when they’re doing genocide.
The biggest reason Democrats keep getting worse is their competition, not the fact we vote for them in spite of deep flaws. Every time the Republicans win, Democrats insist they need to court centrists and move right. Every single time America proves they’re willing to elect someone even worse, Democrats take that as a sign to degrade further.
Republicans pull the US political spectrum to the right while Democrats act as a one-way ratchet preventing us from sliding back to the left. Like any ratchet, though, they’re not an effective tool for maintaining heavy tension/torque/whatever long term. The process only works when Republicans consistently come alone and pull to relieve the pressure. If that stops happening, Democrats start failing at their jobs like a ratchet put under too much strain and breaking. And that would be trivial if more people voted. Republicans are highly dependent on gerrymandering and voter suppression to maintain power, so if leftists overcame their electoral defeatism and actually voted for someone who has a strong chance of winning, we could start making that a reality.
Well, compared to the Republicans who encouraged it, who invaded Iran, who gave Israel room to invade Lebanon, who seized Maduro out of Venezuela, who are potentially preparing to invade Cuba… Yeah. It was probably the better option. And my point is that the election is about choosing who we can put pressure on, not on singlehandedly fixing everything at the ballot box.
Instead, they lost, Republicans did all the same and more, and so they released the election autopsy, admitted Gaza was the reason they lost, and started to pivot, right? Nope. Your plan to withhold your vote didn’t change their mind, and now Republicans are doing as much or more.
See, you cannot address the obvious contradictory nature of your rhetoric. You can only deflect to repeating the original false rhetoric in a way that obfuscates it.
Correct, the democratic party will not stop Israel of their own free will. I’m not convinced they can’t be forced to, though. Hell, if republicans hated supporting Israel enough, the republicans could be forced to, too, but republicans love it, so not happening. The issue here isn’t so much their default stances as it is the fact that a large enough portion of the base is upset with them that we might be able to force them if we collectively tried instead of just giving up and assuming it’s impossible.
Your plan to force Democrats to “slow down” a genocide they’re causing is to promise to vote for them no matter what, especially when they’re doing genocide.
it’s an unfalsifiable orthodoxy. the worse the democrats get, the more the left needs to vote for them and support them to ‘pull them to the left’.
The biggest reason Democrats keep getting worse is their competition, not the fact we vote for them in spite of deep flaws. Every time the Republicans win, Democrats insist they need to court centrists and move right. Every single time America proves they’re willing to elect someone even worse, Democrats take that as a sign to degrade further.
Republicans pull the US political spectrum to the right while Democrats act as a one-way ratchet preventing us from sliding back to the left. Like any ratchet, though, they’re not an effective tool for maintaining heavy tension/torque/whatever long term. The process only works when Republicans consistently come alone and pull to relieve the pressure. If that stops happening, Democrats start failing at their jobs like a ratchet put under too much strain and breaking. And that would be trivial if more people voted. Republicans are highly dependent on gerrymandering and voter suppression to maintain power, so if leftists overcame their electoral defeatism and actually voted for someone who has a strong chance of winning, we could start making that a reality.
Well, compared to the Republicans who encouraged it, who invaded Iran, who gave Israel room to invade Lebanon, who seized Maduro out of Venezuela, who are potentially preparing to invade Cuba… Yeah. It was probably the better option. And my point is that the election is about choosing who we can put pressure on, not on singlehandedly fixing everything at the ballot box.
Instead, they lost, Republicans did all the same and more, and so they released the election autopsy, admitted Gaza was the reason they lost, and started to pivot, right? Nope. Your plan to withhold your vote didn’t change their mind, and now Republicans are doing as much or more.
See, you cannot address the obvious contradictory nature of your rhetoric. You can only deflect to repeating the original false rhetoric in a way that obfuscates it.