It’s unsafe for a cyclist to stop at a stop sign. That’s where most bike fatalities happen. I don’t have blind spots so for me to roll through a stop sign it isn’t dangerous. You seem like someone who would benefit from actually riding a bike in an urban environment to see the differences.
Can you explain the mechanism of action there that makes it more dangerous?
From where I sit- if I’m coming to an intersection that’s a 4 way stop I expect all vehicles to stop. So I go through it and suddenly there’s a biker on my hood who didn’t stop.
This is especially true in urban environments where the bike lane will be behind a line of cars that have stopped for their stop sign.
I respect any other user of the road, as a human being I have no desire to injure another fellow human, and as someone who likes both bikes and motorcycles I’ve got good feelings for almost anybody on two wheels.
I also strongly recognize the value of ‘third mode’ transportation in urban areas, and I want to see more of it- bikes, scooters, powered skateboards, etc. Every person on one of those things is a person not in a car.
My point is not to virtue signal but but rather just to frame this so you understand where I’m coming from.
One of the reasons we have traffic controls is to ensure that there is a commonly understood set of rules that apply to everybody. I’m not even talking about bikes I’m talking between multiple cars. There are plenty of bad drivers out there and those rules are necessary for responsibility.
You say you know the car is coming and I believe you, because you sound like an intelligent person. However I have encountered plenty of bikers that are absolutely doing reckless things with no regard in for the vehicles around them. And perhaps this is why my experience is different than yours. But I have seen a number of bikers blast through stop signs and there is an obvious car coming and said car has to slam on the brakes.
So for me with my experience, the place where my mind immediately goes is ‘are we creating a situation where bikers can ignore the rules but the car driver will still get in trouble for hitting them?’
It’s unsafe for a cyclist to stop at a stop sign. That’s where most bike fatalities happen. I don’t have blind spots so for me to roll through a stop sign it isn’t dangerous. You seem like someone who would benefit from actually riding a bike in an urban environment to see the differences.
Can you explain the mechanism of action there that makes it more dangerous?
From where I sit- if I’m coming to an intersection that’s a 4 way stop I expect all vehicles to stop. So I go through it and suddenly there’s a biker on my hood who didn’t stop.
This is especially true in urban environments where the bike lane will be behind a line of cars that have stopped for their stop sign.
I respect any other user of the road, as a human being I have no desire to injure another fellow human, and as someone who likes both bikes and motorcycles I’ve got good feelings for almost anybody on two wheels. I also strongly recognize the value of ‘third mode’ transportation in urban areas, and I want to see more of it- bikes, scooters, powered skateboards, etc. Every person on one of those things is a person not in a car. My point is not to virtue signal but but rather just to frame this so you understand where I’m coming from.
One of the reasons we have traffic controls is to ensure that there is a commonly understood set of rules that apply to everybody. I’m not even talking about bikes I’m talking between multiple cars. There are plenty of bad drivers out there and those rules are necessary for responsibility.
You say you know the car is coming and I believe you, because you sound like an intelligent person. However I have encountered plenty of bikers that are absolutely doing reckless things with no regard in for the vehicles around them. And perhaps this is why my experience is different than yours. But I have seen a number of bikers blast through stop signs and there is an obvious car coming and said car has to slam on the brakes.
So for me with my experience, the place where my mind immediately goes is ‘are we creating a situation where bikers can ignore the rules but the car driver will still get in trouble for hitting them?’