They may not have the gavels yet, but House Democrats are laying the groundwork for a number of investigations into Donald Trump should they win control of Congress in November.

Rep. Robert Garcia, D-Calif. — who’s set to chair the House Oversight Committee in a Democratic majority — told MS NOW that his team is “already preparing and gearing up.”

“We’ve got a team on Epstein, we have a team on [Trump] family corruption, we have a team on DHS and ICE,” Garcia said. “Those teams are actively working on preparation, letters, research.”

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    Much questioning takes place. Much time is wasted. Many strong statements issued. Democrats fail to make real change or prevent the situation from worsening.

    Nothing happens.

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    They had nearly a decade to do ANYTHING about Trump, the Epstein files, etc. nothing is going to functionally change because these people are complicit. Enough of them on both sides are also compromised and implicated or simply bribed.

    The same song and dance they’ve been putting on for decades. “Oh we can’t do anything unless we control the house and the Senate! Just wait till we’re in charge! We’re gonna fix everything” And then comes the infighting, lack policy, and eventual capitulating to corporate interests.

    What makes you think they’re gonna do anything about any of the shit now?

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      They also can’t do anything about it even if they wanted to. You need a 2/3 majority in the Senate to convict.

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        You do realize that the Epstein files potentially implicate many people in high positions?

        You do realize that performing investigations and to all of these people and also removing them from Congress would likely lead to new people getting elected and therefore moving closer to the 2/3 majority needed to impeach?

        There are things that can be done other than whining about we don’t have the votes in the Senate. They’ve had a decade of Trumps bullshit and Bidens stalling and failing do anything about it. And your argument is they don’t have votes in the Senate?

        is there no way to implicate and remove those who are also involved in high levels of government?

        How can you only argument for a solution be weight for decades until there’s 2/3 majority to impeach? What kind of defeatist attitude is this?

        There needs to be political will to cleanse the government Of these sick perverted corporate backed corrupt politicians, no matter what party or state they come from.

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    investigations

    Maybe we should go ahead and treat Trump the way he’s treated the American citizenry? Particularly immigrant or marginalized groups? Tell me again why an investigation is necessary?

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        That’s crazy, how many deportations were held in civil courts again? Also, in what kind of court was Trump found guilty of sexual misconduct/assault?

        I’ll give you one guess.

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          Are you implying that people go to civil court without investigating anything? I’m not sure what your point is.

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            The overwhelming majority of deportations we’re seeing from the Trump admin are carried out through civil courts. You know, the ones where people are being sent to concentration camps or countries they don’t belong in. Donald Trump was held civilly liable of sexual misconduct and assault through a civil court. It’s what the right wing trogs constantly cite as a reason why they don’t accept the charges.

            What I’m declaring is that if a civil court is good enough to upend someone’s life without due process then Donald Trump should go straight to fucking jail — no?

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              So you believe that since trump abused the legal system, we should legitimize that by abusing it to punish him. That’s what I thought you were saying. No. We’re better than trump. This is childish eye for an eye bullshit that has no place in civil society.

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                What the hell do you mean, better than Trump? We don’t need to prove that Trump should be in jail, he was held liable for sexual assault and is mentioned in the unredacted Epstein Files over a million times.

                He’s been investigated. Israel bought the govt for him and now it’s all ‘whoops, dropped another bomb on brown people again… butterfingers haha!’. Meanwhile people like you are trying to claim we should take the fucking high road while people are fucking dying.

                No this is not childish eye for an eye bullshit. This is a fucking reckoning a long time in the making, long before this term.

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                  We don’t need to prove that Trump should be in jail, he was held liable for sexual assault

                  …in a lawsuit, with a completely different burden of proof than a criminal trial. Nobody’s proven he should be in jail for that to the standards that criminal charges require.

                  and is mentioned in the unredacted Epstein Files over a million times

                  And he hasn’t been tried for it. He should be. But he hasn’t. I’m not willing to advocate for ignoring the process simply because I don’t like the guy.

                  The only thing he’s actually been convicted of are the NYS felonies. And he should be in jail for those. But this attitude of ‘throw the book at him and to hell with the legal system’ is absolutely childish eye for an eye bullshit. That’s banana Republic shit. That’s how MAGA thinks. Do you want to act like MAGA?

                  people like you are trying to claim we should take the fucking high road while people are fucking dying

                  People like me are trying to claim that you don’t defeat trump by becoming trump.

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    What? They don’t do anything when given the power. This is how we ended up with this mess. Unless a civil war breaks our at midterms when Trump reveals his hand, they won’t have the opportunity to do nothing again.

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    What Democrats could do is fundraise to change an ICE detention facility into a Trump Hotel, a high security jail to put Trump while we have the probable cause of some conviction, deny him bail like he has countless immigrants and have him investigated and tried for his crimes. As a luxury we can serve sparkling Dilley concentration camp water too.

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    Oh, yah. I just envision Jeffries and Schumer going all out prosecuting Trump and the Republicans. Yup, it’ll definitely happen, like right away, about 10 minutes after hell freezes over.

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      It’s long past time for the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries to get the hook, and be dragged off stage. They couldn’t have done a worse job if they’d been paid by MAGA, and I’m not convinced they weren’t. They should be deeply investigated for corruption.

      When the Dems take back the House and Senate, these two cowardly weaklings absolutely cannot remain in charge. They were responsible for the revival of MAGA during the Biden administration, and that is absolutely unforgivable.

      It is outrageous that these two losers are STILL in charge, after everything they HAVEN’T DONE. They should already be totally out of office. If they remain in charge after the Midterms, then MAGA will win the 2028 Presidential Election.

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    This should take the form of a continuous, publicly accessible investigation that only continues rather than is summarised when they retake the House.

    But it isn’t and won’t be.

    It will be a well put, tightly and succinctly presented, work of art of an argument for an additional impeachment and unrealised conviction in the Senate. Just like the Jan 6 Committee.

    They should instead be throwing themselves into the gears of govt., but they will take the long term, conventionally optimal strategy of letting the Republicans make their mistakes.

    America is so, so frustrating in the face of obvious corruption and incipient fascism.

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    Does anyone have that “well that just happened” blog meme? I can’t find it lol

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    Democrats plan on doing something pointless and wasting everybody’s time. What else is new?

    Just fucking impeach the goddamn bastard. If you don’t have enough members to do that then you failed as a party to get people to vote for you because of your bullshit centrism.