They may not have the gavels yet, but House Democrats are laying the groundwork for a number of investigations into Donald Trump should they win control of Congress in November.
Rep. Robert Garcia, D-Calif. — who’s set to chair the House Oversight Committee in a Democratic majority — told MS NOW that his team is “already preparing and gearing up.”
“We’ve got a team on Epstein, we have a team on [Trump] family corruption, we have a team on DHS and ICE,” Garcia said. “Those teams are actively working on preparation, letters, research.”
Another opportunity? The last time you fucking clowns did absolutely nothing.
Which proceedings did you watch?
investigations
Maybe we should go ahead and treat Trump the way he’s treated the American citizenry? Particularly immigrant or marginalized groups? Tell me again why an investigation is necessary?
Because “he started it!” belongs in the schoolyard, not the federal government
That’s crazy, how many deportations were held in civil courts again? Also, in what kind of court was Trump found guilty of sexual misconduct/assault?
I’ll give you one guess.
Are you implying that people go to civil court without investigating anything? I’m not sure what your point is.
The overwhelming majority of deportations we’re seeing from the Trump admin are carried out through civil courts. You know, the ones where people are being sent to concentration camps or countries they don’t belong in. Donald Trump was held civilly liable of sexual misconduct and assault through a civil court. It’s what the right wing trogs constantly cite as a reason why they don’t accept the charges.
What I’m declaring is that if a civil court is good enough to upend someone’s life without due process then Donald Trump should go straight to fucking jail — no?
So you believe that since trump abused the legal system, we should legitimize that by abusing it to punish him. That’s what I thought you were saying. No. We’re better than trump. This is childish eye for an eye bullshit that has no place in civil society.
What the hell do you mean, better than Trump? We don’t need to prove that Trump should be in jail, he was held liable for sexual assault and is mentioned in the unredacted Epstein Files over a million times.
He’s been investigated. Israel bought the govt for him and now it’s all ‘whoops, dropped another bomb on brown people again… butterfingers haha!’. Meanwhile people like you are trying to claim we should take the fucking high road while people are fucking dying.
No this is not childish eye for an eye bullshit. This is a fucking reckoning a long time in the making, long before this term.
We don’t need to prove that Trump should be in jail, he was held liable for sexual assault
…in a lawsuit, with a completely different burden of proof than a criminal trial. Nobody’s proven he should be in jail for that to the standards that criminal charges require.
and is mentioned in the unredacted Epstein Files over a million times
And he hasn’t been tried for it. He should be. But he hasn’t. I’m not willing to advocate for ignoring the process simply because I don’t like the guy.
The only thing he’s actually been convicted of are the NYS felonies. And he should be in jail for those. But this attitude of ‘throw the book at him and to hell with the legal system’ is absolutely childish eye for an eye bullshit. That’s banana Republic shit. That’s how MAGA thinks. Do you want to act like MAGA?
people like you are trying to claim we should take the fucking high road while people are fucking dying
People like me are trying to claim that you don’t defeat trump by becoming trump.
What? They don’t do anything when given the power. This is how we ended up with this mess. Unless a civil war breaks our at midterms when Trump reveals his hand, they won’t have the opportunity to do nothing again.
Are they going to do it differently next time?
Democrats plan on doing something pointless and wasting everybody’s time. What else is new?
Just fucking impeach the goddamn bastard. If you don’t have enough members to do that then you failed as a party to get people to vote for you because of your bullshit centrism.
Maybe a dozen of them. No one else.
“Preparation, letters, and research.” You better watch out, Trump administration. You’ve got some strongly worded letters COMING IN HOT. The concern that Democrats are feeling right now will be fucking PALBABLE from coast to coast.
They’re going to ask you pointed question but you won’t have to provide serious answers. Then… you will be free to go.
Get ready to be SLAMMED
Schumer has got his signature look loaded.
Shit, those glasses are at DEFCON 2!!!
yeah, he has the same pair in a slightly redder plastic that are the defcon 1 (strenly worded letter) glasses. We are pretty far from that now though.
That guy is such a ridiculous joke.
i know you’d rather keep trump in power
do nothing you will have your wish
What?
All the jaundiced takes aside, this is what they should be doing right now.
What they should be doing is clearing the party of establishment aipac pieces of shit, because the voters won’t let it go this time just because they don’t want Trump.
I mean, I’d love that. I don’t know enough procedure to say whether that’s an actual option for them. Someone should at least be pointedly asking them to do so.
Seriously, it feels like people think Dems should be building an oubliette right now. The process of rooting out and punishing corruption/incompetence starts with investigations (if you don’t have absolute power) - so they’d better be damn ready to hit the ground running
The problem was nearly four years of “this time we’re really gonna get Trump” in the context of the J6 investigation, the documents he hoarded in his bathroom, etc, and not a damn thing actually happened. The man is white and wealthy and we had four years to see what white and wealthy gets you - teflon skin apparently.
So it’s a little bit hard to imagine dems coming out hard enough to secure consequences of any kind for him. I’m hopeful, sure, and I’m glad they are planning. What I lack faith in is the effectiveness of the plans.
There was a lot getting lined up, and then the fucker got re-elected. I’m pretty sure he would have faced consequences if he wasn’t president.
He’s spent his entire second term dismantling the nation, probably in part to try to make sure it doesn’t actually have the ability to punish him.
He’d already secured his wins when McConnell gave home the Supreme Court and shit loads of lower court appointments. (Eileen Cannon especially).
Now it’s even worse.
I think a big problem is people saying “the Dems” like politicians, the party, fundraisers, and everyone else are in lockstep.
That’s how it used to work, but we quit that shit over a year ago. For good reason. A giant organization controlling everything is the antithesis of the Democratic party.
But yeah, we can’t afford to pull another Biden where day 1 we “start to discuss if we should investigate if it’s time to worry about ____”.
New congress is 7 months away, and they’ve got midterms and 2 months of vacation between now and then.
We don’t have as much time as people think, we absolutely should have shit ready.
The D is for Data center. Be careful which democrat you chose.
Whenever there’s a real socialist, vote for them. If there isn’t, maybe it’s time for a career in politics.
I do, I do. I like social safety net and fair wages for all.
building an oubliette
An oubliette is where you put someone to forget about them, and these shitheels should be remembered forever as cautionary tales, both on what can happen if you get too casual about letting corrupt fucks into positions of power, and on what can happen to you if you’re a corrupt fuck and you try to fuck around too corruptly and get caught with your dick in the cookie jar.
I hope it is Kevin McCallister who prepped the cookie jar. Probably a blender disguised as such.
I think everyone agrees, we just don’t have faith that it’ll bear fruit. There’s been someone in the party doing this since Trump won his first primary, but they’ve always been stopped at some level by ANY degree of opposition, from thinly veiled foot dragging to blatant corruption.
Shouldn’t they be gearing up to make Trump serve appropriate sentencing for the crimes he’s already been convicted of? Hasn’t he been convicted of enough felonies to serve a life sentence?
Maybe prosecute for the myriad of blatantly illegal shit that’s already public knowledge, then investigate the rest once he’s already in prison?
We’re going to be investigating this fucker’s crimes for the next 50 years.
In other words, dont Merrick garland it.
If and when we take back the power that’s being gerrymandered out of our grasp currently, we’ll begin investigating his actions and ultimately applaud ourselves when we confirm what is already very, very obvious. He might be dead of natural causes but at least we investigated. Meanwhile, every one suffering the wrath of his ego and the cruelty of his minions just needs to sit tight and trust the process.
Nah Robert, fuck you and your plans. Fuck your party and your committees. You’re useless sacks of shit who’ve squandered power in the past and will squander it again once (if) you take it back while the innocent suffer and die at the hands of this regime. Too little, too late. I hope history records for posterity that the ineptitude of the Democrats, while not equal to the crimes of MAGA, is like modern day Chamberlains. Ya fucked around and the rest of us have to be the ones who found out.
Great, laying the groundwork for 10 years worth of beuarecratic foot dragging. The dems suck at doing this sort of thing.
-teenage me explaining my intentions to work on homework before locking myself in a room with my Xbox to play halo all night
Yeeee hawwwee
Just wait for the Mueller report guys. Trust me. Justice takes time.
They had nearly a decade to do ANYTHING about Trump, the Epstein files, etc. nothing is going to functionally change because these people are complicit. Enough of them on both sides are also compromised and implicated or simply bribed.
The same song and dance they’ve been putting on for decades. “Oh we can’t do anything unless we control the house and the Senate! Just wait till we’re in charge! We’re gonna fix everything” And then comes the infighting, lack policy, and eventual capitulating to corporate interests.
What makes you think they’re gonna do anything about any of the shit now?
They also can’t do anything about it even if they wanted to. You need a 2/3 majority in the Senate to convict.
You do realize that the Epstein files potentially implicate many people in high positions?
You do realize that performing investigations and to all of these people and also removing them from Congress would likely lead to new people getting elected and therefore moving closer to the 2/3 majority needed to impeach?
There are things that can be done other than whining about we don’t have the votes in the Senate. They’ve had a decade of Trumps bullshit and Bidens stalling and failing do anything about it. And your argument is they don’t have votes in the Senate?
is there no way to implicate and remove those who are also involved in high levels of government?
How can you only argument for a solution be weight for decades until there’s 2/3 majority to impeach? What kind of defeatist attitude is this?
There needs to be political will to cleanse the government Of these sick perverted corporate backed corrupt politicians, no matter what party or state they come from.
