…“the left”? It’s literally in the post title. I am so absolutely ridiculously sick of people on this site getting so incredibly hostile for literally no fucking reason. Stop bullying comrades it’s an unproductive waste of time.
“the left” is not a organization. it’s a vague amorphous blob. I could equally say that “the left” was naively optimistic about Fetterman in 2022. Why is it hostile to point out that Hexbear was doing the same thing that OP accuses Hasan of doing in 2022? I thought Hexbear liked to do self criticism? Why shouldn’t we acknowledge when something was a common mistake. Posturing is unproductive.
No. The title of the thread is an “I told you so”. I am not doing the “I told you so”. If you look at the link that I posted 3 years ago, I didn’t even say “I told you so” then because I didn’t think it would be productive to cast judgment at that time either.
What I am saying is that people are applying a criticism to Hasan that they don’t apply to themselves. I recognize that people make mistakes. The purpose of this thread was clearly to mock Hasan and say “I told you so”, as written in the post title. However, since I pointed out that many users made the same mistake, you now think that I intended to mock those users and say “I told you so”. I think that people recognize their mistakes and hopefully learn from the mistakes. People shouldn’t cast judgment while being guilty of the same mistake.
The thread that I linked was the turning point. I pointed out that people should search “fetterman” and sort by old. There are many earlier threads which held Fetterman in a positive view. The thing is, Fetterman never claimed to be a socialist and was always pro-Israel.
Yeah I mean both those threads are very embarrassing, there are users in there trying to warn people though they just aren’t at the top. One user brought up his racist knife threats, someone else is downplaying it. Another is warning of getting consumed in succ dem electoralism, the normal harm reduction arguments are trotted out.
It is funny that the two OPs are mods/former mods. Not sure why there is such a high rate of electoralism brain among the mods here, it’s totally incongruous with the user base.
When did I say hexbear?
You wrote “we” in the title. Who is we? Lemmygrad doesn’t have posts against Fetterman 4 years ago either.
…“the left”? It’s literally in the post title. I am so absolutely ridiculously sick of people on this site getting so incredibly hostile for literally no fucking reason. Stop bullying comrades it’s an unproductive waste of time.
“the left” is not a organization. it’s a vague amorphous blob. I could equally say that “the left” was naively optimistic about Fetterman in 2022. Why is it hostile to point out that Hexbear was doing the same thing that OP accuses Hasan of doing in 2022? I thought Hexbear liked to do self criticism? Why shouldn’t we acknowledge when something was a common mistake. Posturing is unproductive.
You’re not participating in self crit you’re participating in "ha ha I told you so"ism
No. The title of the thread is an “I told you so”. I am not doing the “I told you so”. If you look at the link that I posted 3 years ago, I didn’t even say “I told you so” then because I didn’t think it would be productive to cast judgment at that time either.
What I am saying is that people are applying a criticism to Hasan that they don’t apply to themselves. I recognize that people make mistakes. The purpose of this thread was clearly to mock Hasan and say “I told you so”, as written in the post title. However, since I pointed out that many users made the same mistake, you now think that I intended to mock those users and say “I told you so”. I think that people recognize their mistakes and hopefully learn from the mistakes. People shouldn’t cast judgment while being guilty of the same mistake.
We won’t acknowledge the mistake because we will do it again for AOC, Mamdani, etc. etc.
The electoralists truly never learn. They have an unfalsifiable orthodoxy, where the “harm reduction” fallacy overrides any Marxist theory.
I am a tankie. My friends and I have been saying this about Zionist Fetterman and his pinkwashing since 4 years ago.
There are users in that thread who seem to not be surprised and have warned against him previously, funnily enough they are now banned
The thread that I linked was the turning point. I pointed out that people should search “fetterman” and sort by old. There are many earlier threads which held Fetterman in a positive view. The thing is, Fetterman never claimed to be a socialist and was always pro-Israel.
example
https://hexbear.net/post/158884
https://hexbear.net/post/82004
Yeah I mean both those threads are very embarrassing, there are users in there trying to warn people though they just aren’t at the top. One user brought up his racist knife threats, someone else is downplaying it. Another is warning of getting consumed in succ dem electoralism, the normal harm reduction arguments are trotted out.
It is funny that the two OPs are mods/former mods. Not sure why there is such a high rate of electoralism brain among the mods here, it’s totally incongruous with the user base.