@LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone do you not consider the content of this post to be a direct violation of rule 3? See my other comments here to understand my view point better. But regardless doesn’t this objectively count as hate filled talk about a group?
It is not saying that all men treat women poorly, but that men treat women the way they think a woman deserves to be treated.
A good man will treat a woman with respect because he acknowledges that basic human respect is deserved at that point.
A shit man will treat a woman horribly because in his mind she ‘deserves it’. Without something that changes his viewpoint he will not look back on it and say ‘I was wrong’.
It didn’t suggest men are treating women poorly, it said they treat them as well as they think the deserve. If you interpret that negatively, ask yourself why.
I did not say it did, I said it made negative assumptions(they all think they are okay, they will never change) on all men. As if no man can ever see his own mistakes, as if no man can ever understand the issue and change. To call this post not negative towards men is disingenuous.
Must every reply of this type accuse the commenter of being sexist? Can’t you imagine someone could hold any view except your own without being a monster?
That’s some lovely gaslighting there, buddy. If I slap you in the face, then it’s you who have a problem if you interpreted my little pat as a violent act.
Gaslighting is when you tell someone that what they see with their own eyes and hear with their own ears isn’t real and you’re doing it in order to discredit their judgement and make them doubt themselves. That is what you’re doing with your casual denial that this post is straight up hateful towards all men.
You can do your mental gymnastics and deny this all you want, but one has to be blind and stupid to not understand the purpose of this post as being divisive and hateful towards men.
As a woman, I do not approve of this type of bs, especially not in a group that is supposedly against spreading hatred.
Maybe if you read it you’d see the statement isn’t saying anything at all, which isn’t something I’m denying. It’s deliberately phrased to be a general, non-statement while inciting biases someone may read into it.
Interpreting a phrase different from someone else isn’t gaslighting, but I see you’ve resorted to straight up insults. Touch some fucking grass, christ.
I think you’re the one who needs to read the statement again. It is very clearly negative towards men.
If it was neutral, it would not have added
“Dishes out”
“You’ll never convince any of them to change”
“None of them think they are the problem”
Those are not neutral statements. They are accusatory and as it is stated in the beginning of the comment, it is accusing all men.
I have never heard any context where “dishes out” was used in a positive or neutral way toward someone. It is always a negative way of saying that someone is treating other people in a way they wouldn’t like to be treated themselves.
If the statement was neutral, then why would it be necessary to put emphasis on men not being willing to change the way they dish out what they think women deserve?
And why would anyone have to think men were the problem if them dishing it out to women wasn’t an issue?
I believe you know that this statement is hateful towards men and you’re being cheeky about it, because if not, then you probably are the one who needs to learn how to read the meaning of a sentence.
@LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone do you not consider the content of this post to be a direct violation of rule 3? See my other comments here to understand my view point better. But regardless doesn’t this objectively count as hate filled talk about a group?
It is not saying that all men treat women poorly, but that men treat women the way they think a woman deserves to be treated.
A good man will treat a woman with respect because he acknowledges that basic human respect is deserved at that point.
A shit man will treat a woman horribly because in his mind she ‘deserves it’. Without something that changes his viewpoint he will not look back on it and say ‘I was wrong’.
And this works if you flip the genders too
It didn’t suggest men are treating women poorly, it said they treat them as well as they think the deserve. If you interpret that negatively, ask yourself why.
I did not say it did, I said it made negative assumptions(they all think they are okay, they will never change) on all men. As if no man can ever see his own mistakes, as if no man can ever understand the issue and change. To call this post not negative towards men is disingenuous.
If what I’m saying is so far off the mark, then so is calling it hate speech.
I don’t agree that people can’t change, though.
Must every reply of this type accuse the commenter of being sexist? Can’t you imagine someone could hold any view except your own without being a monster?
I didn’t accuse anyone of being sexist. I’m suggesting people hold implicit biases about sexism.
Fair, and also I just realized this is the women-only community, so I must leave. Have a nice day
Thank you for checking the rules and being civil. Have a good week.
That’s some lovely gaslighting there, buddy. If I slap you in the face, then it’s you who have a problem if you interpreted my little pat as a violent act.
People have got to learn the definition of gaslighting. And come up with better analogies.
Gaslighting is when you tell someone that what they see with their own eyes and hear with their own ears isn’t real and you’re doing it in order to discredit their judgement and make them doubt themselves. That is what you’re doing with your casual denial that this post is straight up hateful towards all men.
You can do your mental gymnastics and deny this all you want, but one has to be blind and stupid to not understand the purpose of this post as being divisive and hateful towards men.
As a woman, I do not approve of this type of bs, especially not in a group that is supposedly against spreading hatred.
Maybe if you read it you’d see the statement isn’t saying anything at all, which isn’t something I’m denying. It’s deliberately phrased to be a general, non-statement while inciting biases someone may read into it.
Interpreting a phrase different from someone else isn’t gaslighting, but I see you’ve resorted to straight up insults. Touch some fucking grass, christ.
I think you’re the one who needs to read the statement again. It is very clearly negative towards men.
If it was neutral, it would not have added “Dishes out”
“You’ll never convince any of them to change”
“None of them think they are the problem”
Those are not neutral statements. They are accusatory and as it is stated in the beginning of the comment, it is accusing all men.
I have never heard any context where “dishes out” was used in a positive or neutral way toward someone. It is always a negative way of saying that someone is treating other people in a way they wouldn’t like to be treated themselves.
If the statement was neutral, then why would it be necessary to put emphasis on men not being willing to change the way they dish out what they think women deserve?
And why would anyone have to think men were the problem if them dishing it out to women wasn’t an issue?
I believe you know that this statement is hateful towards men and you’re being cheeky about it, because if not, then you probably are the one who needs to learn how to read the meaning of a sentence.
I guess you didn’t touch any grass.
Funny how you have no ability to engage with anyone’s argument other than delivering little insults. Very mature.
Uh that wasn’t gaslighting. That was disagreeing on the interpretation of a paragraph .
Very. Very different things