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Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
Mass instance bans
Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
Done
Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
He has abused the modlog to claim ‘harassment’, which I have never engaged in. I have not even interacted with Rimu in any way for days prior to getting kicked from the PieFed developer Matrix channels.
He has decided to mass ban 20 users because they have spoken out against his erratic and hostile behaviour as of late.
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when you’re modding on piefed but you’re a reddit mod at heart
I thought piefed was bad news when I first read their document on tools for upholding healthy communities where they defended the idea of a karma system. Skavau very adamantly defends it claiming it’s not a Karma system while describing everything wrong with Reddit’s Karma system as if it’s somehow a good thing. I’m not really glad that I’m right, this situation is awful. I am glad though that more people are seeing it for what it is, and hopefully will stop endorsing piefed so openly.
Piefed as a software was always hipster pop. People gravitated towards it because it was new, it’s not Lemmy and it tries to be everything. Some features are genuinely good and others aren’t implemented in Lemmy for logical reasons. Anyway, point is, the people that create pop tend to be superficial and not want to rock any boats. It’s unsurprising that he’d want to create a silo of confirmation bias. But I’m biased because I want my threadiverse experience to be full of people with differing opinions, stances and lifestyles.
That said, I also don’t think brigading helps, even when they’re baited. Inadvertently or not. Everyone’s own mental health should remain the priority.
i think someone made the argument that it was insanely less demanding on servers though
Yeah, if you’ve prevented the majority of the threadiverse interacting with your server, it’ll of course be less demanding. 🥴
I’m new around here and I must say you guys enjoy your drama.
Yeah, the difference between Lemmy and reddit is banning everyone doesn’t really mean anything.
Ah ok
My piefed account wasn’t loading. Now I wonder if I was blocked my I rarely have an opinion about anything to be banned at all
No the server is unreachable atm
Apparently urgent maintenance that needs at least a day to accommodate?
Wonder if they were hosting in the data center that caught fire a week or two ago and that requires downtime?
https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/northc-data-center-outside-amsterdam-suffers-fire/
When you aren’t popular enough to make the list :(
I’m out here posting commie shit every day and getting into fights about it. But occasionally I take a peek at MoG and I’ve never seen my name there, it’s always just Cowbee this and Cowbee that. Now I don’t even make the blocklist.
What am I, chopped liver?
I do think it’s funny just how much vitriol I seem to get, and I mostly stick to Lemmy.ml anyways.
I’m pretty sure any interaction you and I have had was about as luke warm as yesterday’s tea, and I think even that would be more heated than any interaction ive had with rimu. I think I once commented about someones preferred pronouns not being used? Eh, whatever.
Apparently I’m wayyyy more ban worthy than you.
Edit: I want a sticker to commemorate this event.
Edit 2: Oh, and for the record I think it was something like “they prefer x”, and you replied with “whoops, let me correct”. I don’t want to imply it was some sort of negative interaction and give folks the wrong impression.
I’ll be honest, I don’t really recall, which probably is in part because it was likely such a lukewarm interaction in the first place.
Pretty much exactly that
They loathe you because they can’t dismiss you without doing a bunch of reading they otherwise wouldnt do
I tend to agree. If I were more aggressive, then it’s easy to dismiss me as a troll, but I deliberately choose not to do that.
I honestly wonder if they ignore me because I’m meaner. But who knows what goes on in their heads.
Honestly it’s probably the amount of text. A few of the people who got banned are dyed in the wool multi-paragraph to full book of text posters. Cowbee and Staments being the absolute gods of this.
I bet that list is just a stack ranked list of numbers of words in threads they didn’t like, and Rimu just banned line the top 50.
No one has ever accused me of not posting walls of texts before 🤣
I think you’re right about it being about a specific thread though.
I suspect it too, I frequently have to revise my comments to tone them down before posting (and even after) because I know confrontation just turns people off of productive discussion, but I think this causes cognitive dissonance in some rather extreme reactionaries. Few people mildly dislike me, it seems either varying degrees of neutrality or positive views, or otherwise extreme hatred. Just what I’ve noticed.
You’ve yet to post 17000~ more comments to reach Cowbee.
Damn, he do be posting.
Less than I used to, actually.
Git gud scrub
Such powerful harassment as this ^ is how I was able to so masterfully reach ban status ☺
takes notes furiously
Iso@lemy.lol is the former admin of lemy.lol. It’s also a bit odd because Piefed.social defederated from lemy.lol over their logo and Iso has told Rimu to go fuck himself a few times over it. The fact that he decided to block him here and now is telling because it proves its a personal hitlist and not coordinated harassment as he wants to claim. Otherwise, why wasn’t he blocked prior? And even then, why block an account now from a defederated instance?
That’s really funny. Probably means rimu is maintaining a personal shit-list and decided to just copy-paste it to piefeds banlist.
I’ve got no other explanation for why he’s banning users that he has already defederated from. The only way he could be coralling that list is if he’s looking at stuff from another instance and attempting to control the narrative for other admins.
Getting triggered over a pepe in 2026 is almost as cringe as posting a pepe in 2026.
Same, I mean c’mon I was clearly popular enough to get a .world instance ban but not enough for piefed.social 3:
It’s possible he’ll add more people from threads in YPTB. He’s insecure like that, he probably stalks our instance to see if we’re saying bad things about him.
Well, i got missed in the first round, so
FUCK RIMU.
This confirms everything I said about piefed months ago. I even made a piefed account and brought up concerns, only to be told the “anti-tankie” controls were for everyone’s own good.
Sucks to suck.
I believe I may have said I thought the concerns were outsized. And if I had, clearly I was wrong.
similar spot. seems like mbin has won the race for “least problematic threadiverse software” by simply not setting itself completely on fire
I’ll be candid, I forgot kbin & mbin existed for a moment there.
Which maybe is a positive for their use?
I thought it went the way of mbin for a bit honestly. Or just confused then mixed them up in which is still being worked on
Have to be honest… I’m not sure which is active either.
Edit: mbin is active
I honestly thought kbin was the replacement. Now realizing that’s silly thinking k before m
I don’t think an additional post would be helpful, but it seems I’ve been banned from feddit.online as well.
Which I’m not even sure if I’ve ever been on?
Same happened to me.
https://piefed.ca/comment/4659715
Seems to be from that post by rimu that @sunshine@piefed.ca shared here
Nah, mine was from earlier, but at the sameish time across 3 instances. I presume the same course happened, Rimu wanted me banned and pushed others to follow suit (and some agreed).
Lines up with rimus call to other instances to rid them of these unmentionables
He’s been pushing very hard that his rules should be applied everywhere, and it’s why I lost all trust in Piefed. I went from being interested in switching to it to immediately disinterested, I’m not sure what he’s coded in there that has personal interest to him. Yeah I disagree with people on the internet, but that’s a server admin’s personal decision, not something he gets to make for other admins.
It’s been extremely clear rimus goals for the fediverse from the beginning with the blog post they did outlining how social media should be.
I’m not sure what he’s coded in there that has personal interest to him.
They seem to be wanting to build the next everything app in the fediverse. Built along how they feel social media should be. While also focusing power up towards the admin
Example: their discussions on growing communities
https://join.piefed.social/2024/06/22/piefed-features-for-growing-healthy-communities/
PieFed gives admins a suite of tools to take a more hands-on approach to gardening all the communities on their instance. It does this by ignoring the community divisions and instead treating all posts and accounts as a big pool of things to be managed. Of course there are solid community moderation tools available but I will not be focusing on them in this blog post.
In summary all the worst parts of reddit on the fediverse
Yup, saw that after I posted the screenshot.
Who is being targeted for harassment now? I think its the people who are being posted about and being lied about, personally.
Everyone but the ones causing the actual issues. Like now with rimu and before lemmy.world admins and mods
@Rimu@piefed.social has completely destroyed his reputation by this point, and likely has thoroughly destroyed public perception of piefed. He is continuing to prove he is exactly the threat people have said the Lemmy devs will be.
It’s ironic because he’s so concerned about the Lemmy devs. I know I’ve personally called out nutomic before, and we had a respectful conversation, but ended up disagreeing. Rimu does it shamelessly and without respect and then expects everyone to sing his praises afterwards after he forces his perception on everyone else.
@Rimu@piefed.social has completely destroyed his reputation
well, everywhere except his own spaces, because he’s carefully curated those to only be filled with sycophantic losers.
As some rando who considered piefed due to the problematic Lemmy devs, I agree. The stuff I’ve read about it has turned me off of it, and I’m sure I’m not the only one.
Being online via Lemmy caused me not one, but 2 mental collapses (I’m fine now, diagnosed with bipolar and have meds now) so I decided to give PieFed a shot, since I get bored on “fedi” (I hate that name for the Misskey forks). The promise of better features faster seemed amazing (politics of Lemmy devs aside). I’ve been around since the very first day of the Reddit API fiasco, and despite this 2 week-old account, I’ve been around the block. The age of this account is not coincidental. Thankfully, the FAF exposed Rimu’s bullshit so I decided to start fresh yet again with the FAF (I’m already an anarchist, so why not?) due to this inexcusable drama stirring.
My biggest hope is that the AN fork of PieFed is deployed soon and properly maintained, because Rimu has changed from “dev making a new product with easy contributions” to “perhaps the biggest authoritarian threat to the threadiverse driven by sycophants” in a matter of weeks.
Rimu has banned some of the largest voices on the platform with this fell-swoop. This entire thing likely deserves its own static website in order to document what’s going on, because people on the flagship PieFed instance are never likely to see it. I may do this just because this is worse more than many realize, I think. We collectively saw threads dot net happening and basically all of the threadiverse defederated due to obvious foreseeable issues.
This reminds me of that guy that was DM’ing people with a ban every time they used the word “bro” but on a much larger and more influential scale. We aren’t talking about a mod (that was on piefed btw, I think he made his own instance) now, but an entire development effort that can deeply harm not only this platform, but the very idea of this platform as a whole.
In short,
FUCK RIMUBro, when do i get my ban?
Ditto. I don’t want to say things about my past here, because I was really bad at times. But. for my first instance ban ever, I want to earn a ban.
The only thing I’ve ever said to him was pushing back against his criticism with screenshots of evidence that proved him wrong.
He is not removing people for a coordinated harassment campaign. He is removing people to silence dissent and exert a stranglehold on his platform and his own ego.
PTB is, quite literally, not strong enough. He is an active danger to the entire fediverse as a whole. He is dragging down credibility of any instance that runs Piefed and has proven that not only is he a manchild incapable of regulating his own emotions and ego.
Piefed has become Chernobyl levels of radioactive. You can keep running a Piefed instance but you better expect questions on why you’re helping to further this narcissistic psychopaths control and influence.
It’s also kind of strange that Iso@lemy.lol is on that list. They’re a former admin of lemy.lol who had beef with Rimu but Rimu defederated from lemy.lol a while ago over their logo. The fact that he’s banning that user in amongst all the others kind of proves that this is a personal hitlist and not harassment. Otherwise, why are you banning a user that you’ve defederated from?
He is dragging down credibility of any instance that runs Piefed
No one who runs Piefed had credibility to begin with, it’s a tantrum in software form, developed for the sole purpose of owning the tankies
Piefed has become Chernobyl levels of radioactive. You can keep running a Piefed instance but you better expect questions on why you’re helping to further this narcissistic psychopaths control and influence.
Yyyyyyep
Haha….hahahaha….hahahahahahahahaha
Have you seen the developers of Lemmy? You want to talk about radioactive and furthering narcissistic psychopaths.
It’s just part and parcel of what’s created. Doesn’t mean we subscribe to what they believe in, just the software.
There’s most likely parts of Linux that are merged from tankies, communists, terfs, bigots and all other manners of people you don’t agree with. Are you gonna stop using that. No, it’s functional, open source software
Show me a crashout this bad from the lemmy devs over being called mean names and other instances moderation practices.
Imagine the reaction if the “tankie” devs put in a default blocklist of the libbest instances, or default domain blocklist of 3000 entries you’d have to unblock one-by-one or had any piece of lemmy vibecoded or made a “harrasment” blacklist (in the original sense of the word) and shared it publicly… Like you can directly compare the nutomic reaction to being called a transphobe to rimus reaction to him thinking he has been called one…
Or imagine a tankie version of mog that had yesteryears drama threads still pinned, or an instance admin who’s dedicated mission was reposting stuff from the bad instances using their many many alts in order to starve them out of interaction
Have you seen the developers of Lemmy?
Yes I have, they’ve said + done some problematic things. If that was a constant, ongoing and current pattern of behaviour, I’d be agreeing that running Lemmy instances would be a questionable pursuit.
There’s most likely parts of Linux that are merged from … people you don’t agree with.
Running an instance on Piefed isn’t like being a user. It’s the equivalent of running whole servers using a problematic Linux distro. And yes, I will and have stopped running Linux distros on servers, both personally and at work, due to problematic ownership over the distros.
If someone started running all their servers on a distro with shitty verbiage in it, whose developer kept hardcoding all their personal vendettas into it while using their authority over the project to ban users and side with people adjacent to fascists, I would (quite rightfully) question them about it. I would also doubt their beliefs.
I have had many conversations with people all across the fediverse, and I do not believe that I have been banned by anyone for my existence in a thread aside from rimu doing that just now.
And you can feel free to see what my comments in that thread were. Do any of them come across as inflammatory?
Lemmy devs have also said some pretty damn problematic things, and despite my commenting on them in the past, I have yet to have a bad interaction with those very same folks.
It would seem rimu is taking things to a level far beyond what the fediverse has seen so far.
So, I’ll be seeing if there is anything I can do for pievolution instead.
Edit: sorry, I did have another interaction, where rimu made claims about llm use that were clearly made up and I commented as much. Rimu then replied with “why was it on me to report about it then”, to which I said “because its literally nothing so no one cares”.
So I’m assuming that plus my very existence in the other thread was the trigger.
“Whatabout the other guy” don’t care didn’t ask
Nope just pointing out that it’s a pointless schoolyard squabble. You can take the drama off of Reddit but it’s still gonna be here it seems. Started with tankies, moved here. I just laugh at it all. I’ll keep enjoying my content and popcorn.
Show me a crashout this bad from the lemmy devs over being called mean names and other instances moderation practices.
show it to me. link it.
You replied with your own quote.
🍿🍿🍿
ye and you got nothing but some zingers to back your arguments up
No you weren’t
I have no idea of the circumstances of these bans, but I can say that several (maybe four or five) of these users are people I’ve encountered where the conversation has been politically charged but respectful until they showed up, and in around a two hour window, I’ve been heavily downvoted.
That’s anecdotal, it’s not strong evidence of coordinated raiding or bullying, but there does seem to be a trend, and I guess it might be the same thing Rimu is responding to?
I don’t know any of these people personally, but I remember the names I encounter here pretty well.
I try to judge each comment on it’s own merit, but there are users I consider more trustworthy than others, and I know I align with the opinions and politics of a lot of users on this ban list.
So yes, users like say, Diva or Db0, have a bit more credibility in my eyes. Could just be that a lot of people agree with them.
users like say, Diva or Db0, have a bit more credibility in my eyes. Could just be that a lot of people agree with them.
why thank you!
i’d like to think that’s not by happenstance, i do try to put in the effort at understanding where people are coming from.
in the past i’ve even had disagreements with a fair number of people on this list, my orientation is always to try to squash a beef if the other person is receptive to it. particularly if it’s with someone i can tell would be a comrade otherwise.
It is noticed and appreciated.
It’s my goal to put out more good than bad, even if I am a little shit sometimes.
my shitposting game has been weak lately. disappointed in myself for not making it into the list.
Hey it looks like another round is starting, so it’s anyone’s guess!
Hi. Admin of lemy.lol here who is also on that list.
I have made 5 comments in total and have not commented in the matrix channels. I have also made a single comment about Rimu. This.
Rimu is incapable of handling basic criticism. If an admin is such a threat that a single comment about him constitutes a ‘coordinated harassment campaign’, then Rimu and Piefed.social must be defederated en masse. We at lemy.lol would do so if he didn’t defederate from us over his perception of a frog.
A bit off-topic, but Pepe does raise my hackles, and has for the last dozen years, ever since #gamergate. Ex-Groypers will see it as an invitation to a Nazi bar.
That’s why you’ve got to use Pepe while being vehemently woke, to make it clear bigots aren’t tolerated
Given how ubiquitous Pepe is as a template for emotes in places like Twitch, I argue that Pepe was taken back by the gamers as a mascot.
Now, because gamers are gamers I also don’t fault anyone having reactive doubts about usage of Pepe. But I don’t think those doubts are license to action without some burden of proof.
Posting frogs itself means nothing. The content of the frogs means everything, including dogwhistles. He’s not a dogwhistle himself anymore, just with exceptions to that rule, like the specific groyper one.
He has been granted the title of having reasonable innocent use, but he has not been extended the rank of not having problematic associations.
Shame on Rimu. They clearly shouldn’t be in any position of authority.
