• Sludgeyy@lemmy.world
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    30 days ago

    As someone with aphantasia and no internal monologe it makes sense to me.

    So many people tell me their brains just send them images and monologe without them “thinking” it themselves first. Like to me they are reacting to what their brain is telling them. And that’s what is required to be schizophrenic.

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      23 days ago

      FWIW i also have aphantasia, but i have an internal monologue and pretty good auditory imagination, and i hallucinate sounds quite often when it’s quiet and i’m laying in bed. I also get a light form of sleep paralysis every now and then, where i’ll wake up and my brain insists that garderobe handles are insects or whatever.

      So yeah i think that broadly jives with your hypothesis, since i get auditory hallucinations while awake but only get visual ones when in a severely altered state of mind.

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    Maybe the blind schizophrenics just don’t ever know.

    If they are hearing hallucinations, how would they know they aren’t real? It’s not like they can see that there’s nobody saying these things.

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      30 days ago

      Schizophrenia produces many symptoms other than hallucinations and causes profound cognitive and social dysfunction. Poverty of thought, delusions, and disordered thinking and speech among others. There would be signs others could see.

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      1 month ago
      1. If you know you’re alone at home and then hear voices, that might be one way. There are ways to distinguish the presence of people beyond sight.

      2. Blindness is much more than total blindness, which only describes a minority of blind people. There are different definitions, but the World Health Organization puts the definition as less than 3/60 or a visual field of less than 10 degrees in the better-seeing eye. That basically means that if you need to be more than 20 times closer to an object to be able to see the same level of detail, or you have almost no peripheral vision, you qualify.

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        30 days ago

        How often do you check with others to confirm that something you just experienced was real?

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          29 days ago

          “Do you hear that or is it just my tinnitus?” is a fairly common question in my household.

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      1 month ago

      The sighted schizophrenics don’t know their hallucinations aren’t real. It’s always an external diagnosis.

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    30 days ago

    They also can learn to echolocate to the point the vision area of the brain process it.

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      30 days ago

      I remember long ago, watching a show where a blind teenage boy used echolocation to skateboard around. I thought it was the coolest thing.

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        30 days ago

        I had a cocker spaniel that went blind from glaucoma, and he got around much better than you would expect. I guess dog hearing is probably pretty good for that

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          23 days ago

          dogs also have pretty… dogwater… vision, to start with they can’t see read and then on top of that it’s just generally low quality.
          AFAIK we humans actually pretty amazing vision by general animal standards