Do you think any of these qualify as anything more than hobby projects?
I’m not sure I’d consider a single-threaded browser application to be relevant in 2026. IE7 still technically exists too, and if you really wanted to you could run Netscape Navigator, but I wouldn’t count them among functional current browsers.
no, that is exactly the issue. The fact that Andreas Kling is willing to interact with lunduke, dhh, and similar people on a semi-regular basis is not a great look.
Oh, that podcast was with Kling, not about him. That is unfortunate.
I remember there was some drama with Ladybird after some he/him pronouns were changed to they/them in the (instructions?). Back then, from my very not-involved point of view, it seemed to come from some sort of misunderstanding/improper pull request. Maybe I was hopeful.
… this lends more credence to my hope being misplaced.
You could argue Goanna is its own thing by now. It was forked from Gecko, but Blink/Chromium was initially forked from WebKit.
There’s also Servo and LibWeb, but I don’t think either is really usable yet.
Do you think any of these qualify as anything more than hobby projects?
I’m not sure I’d consider a single-threaded browser application to be relevant in 2026. IE7 still technically exists too, and if you really wanted to you could run Netscape Navigator, but I wouldn’t count them among functional current browsers.
What about LadyBirdEdit: that’s LibWeb
vibecoded fashtech, but servo does exist
I won’t entirely disagree with the vibecode part, but I don’t think Lunduke is a particularly trustworthy source.
no, that is exactly the issue. The fact that Andreas Kling is willing to interact with lunduke, dhh, and similar people on a semi-regular basis is not a great look.
Oh, that podcast was with Kling, not about him. That is unfortunate.
I remember there was some drama with Ladybird after some he/him pronouns were changed to they/them in the (instructions?). Back then, from my very not-involved point of view, it seemed to come from some sort of misunderstanding/improper pull request. Maybe I was hopeful.
… this lends more credence to my hope being misplaced.