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ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

Reminder that Armed Resitance against illegal occupation is legal under international law.

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Reminder that Armed Resitance against illegal occupation is legal under international law.

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ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago
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  • Tommasi [she/her, pup/pup's]@hexbear.net
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    Zero respect for people who “sympathize” with Palestinians, but who instantly condemns fighting back against their occupation.

    Are Palestinians meant to just sit there and die slowly while we feel sorry for them?

    • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]@hexbear.net
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      there were two reigns of terror but liberals ignore one of them every time

      • NPa [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        picard-annoyed There are TWO reigns of terror!

    • Magician [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      “Liberals don’t believe in politics anymore, only in bearing witness to suffering.”

    • GriffithDidNothingWrong [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      “Can the hungry go on a hunger strike? Non-violence is a piece of theatre. You need an audience. What can you do when you have no audience? People have the right to resist annihilation”

      Arundhati Roy

      • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Damn that’s good

    • quarrk [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      MLK Birmingham Jail letter

      I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

  • SteamedHamberder [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    The purpose of Qassam rockets isn’t to inflict casualties- it is to disrupt normal everyday routine, which Israel has been doing to Gaza for 75 years.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      They rarely kill anyone. But they do cause Iron Dome to fire very expensive counter-missiles.

      • SteamedHamberder [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Exactly. Given the limited materiel that Hamas has, if their primary objective was to “kill Jews” firing a large number of small, poorly aimed rockets vaguely Northeastward is an incredibly inefficient way of doing it.

  • Sasuke [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    but my us-foreign-policy says it’s terrorism

  • eXAt [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Stealing a post from the trueanon subreddit: “Gaza is both morally and conceptually the same as the Warsaw Ghetto”

  • macerated_baby_presidents [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I support the Palestinian armed struggle. However does a UN resolution mean anything? I know that in US politics, resolutions are just symbolic and don’t carry force of law.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      General Assembly resolutions are helpful signposts of international law but not a binding source of international law. For something to be a point of customary international law, it needs to have jus cogens and state practice. In simple terms, countries need to believe that it is law and act accordingly.

      GA resolutions are useful as statements of jus cogens (belief that law exists) but not necessarily determinative.

      None of this is relevant to your question though, since the US does not abide by international law.

    • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      When you hear about “international law” it’s essentially just UN resolutions and treaties

  • TheGamingLuddite [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Starve the fascist settlers for blood and soil and watch as they begin to cannibalize one another.

  • Elon_Musk [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Well aktually

  • ahshidahfuck [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    me when rules-based international order

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    If we’re talking about international law it’s worth noting that an illegal war still results in a legal occupation which is actually a good thing otherwise international law about how countries can treat civilians wouldn’t apply to the occupation

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    Armed resistance is one thing, massacring civilians is another.

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      the civilians:

      • BountifulEggnog [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        I hope they eat shit and die.

      • sarcasticsunrise@lemm.ee
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        Holy fuck that image is the purest of rage fuel. Would set fire to that house while occupants asleep/10

      • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.ee
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        deleted by creator

    • ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      I am glad you agree ! its an important moral Issue.

      Hopefully the appartheits regime thats denies the natives every right to their land and citizenship will finally learn that " you do unto others as you want others do unto you "

    • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]@hexbear.net
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      yes, israel shouldn’t massacre civilians.

      • tra@lemm.ee
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        Nor should the Palestinians…

        • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          don’t put civilians at the front lines of your settler project

          • tra@lemm.ee
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            I didn’t put anybody anywhere, I was born into this shit just like the Palestinians.

            • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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              bet you can leave unlike the Palestinians though

              • tra@lemm.ee
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                Don’t worry bruv, omw.

                • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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                  lol colonizer got banned

                  eat shit

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      if your government kills a palestinian to give their home to you and you happily accept it, I won’t be crying when the other palestinians come to kill you. but not prefering this happens

    • bbnh69420@hexbear.net
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      I agree, hence why this is a necessary step to stop Israeli terror bombings

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      Absolutely. The zionist entity should stop massacring civilians. They should also keep their own civilians safe by not putting them on other people’s land where they are subject to forceful removal.

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      if Russian soldiers settlers don’t want to die, they can just go home

    • princeofsin [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Exactly! Israel needs to stop killing and oppressing the Palestinians

    • Grimble [he/him,they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Which side is doing that again?

    • Redcedar@lemm.ee
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      Your sentiment is right, but your logic falls short. How would you describe what Israel is doing to Palestinian civilians, and also does that mean if a nation invaded another sovereign nation, they can say they’re not military, they’re civilians and therefore you cannot resist? Help me understand your perspective.

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Palestine is doing the former and the Israeli response as always is the latter

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      Look, all of you. I am by no means legitimizing Israel’s actions in Gaza nor the west bank, they are criminal and atrocious. But at the same time, murdering and raping civilians is not armed resistance. Two things can coexist, Both sides can be wrong.

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        maybe they’d be more civil and polite if they weren’t the victims of a generation long genocide

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        Maybe if the Jews in Europe hadn’t done the Warsaw Uprising, things would have gone better for them!

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    Yes but targeting civilians… Not the same

    • ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      i also think they need better rockets , but without the Blockade lifted thats not possible sadly. israel does not allow it … Its helps the Israelie narrative i think , thats why they dont give Hamas precision bombs…

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      the IDF has been known to false flag as palestinian resistance and kill israeli citizens in order to stir up even more hatred of palestinians. also stop defending settler colonialism with your tiresome and algorithmic both-sidesism that you doubtless apply to every issue without the slightest analysis.

    • makotech222 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      they’re not ‘civilians’, they’re settlers.

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      downbear

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