• FosterMolasses@leminal.space
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    Ya gotta own it. Be that mysterious single upvote on a ratio AF’d post.

    Which I frequently am, just because it was something so unhinged that it made me laugh instead of angry (like that one post I saw of someone preaching something about the Starbucks logo being the anti-christ).

    If you make me laugh you get an upvote, thems the rules.

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      Upvotes aren’t private, therefore not so mysterious.

      And while it’s not EXTREMELY easy to find the public information, people definitely go digging for it. And it’s public by design.

      The only people who will dig? The group you offended.

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    Cowardly, either dive into the fray and defend your beliefs or admit you’re wrong and change your mind

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    What’s really weird is: The person cooking and the person getting cooked have the same opinion, they just can’t communicate right.

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      Or they can communicate just fine but stand on a pile of assumptions about the other person that aren’t true so they just keep talking past each other.

      Sometimes internet fights remind me of a poorly written TV episode where the entire plot rests on a character not sharing some information that a real person would obviously think to share.

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    ALL IM SAYING IS FOREIGNERS should cook me their native dishes so I can omnomnom new and interesting cuisines ~

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      I’ve been working my way into the fringes of many different cuisines. Finding ingredients that you can’t find in most markets. I’m just sick of the US standard, garlic, onion, paprika, basil, oregino, bullion, salt, pepper that just makes up 99% of food here. Everything good is some offshoot of KFC flavors :)

      Really good stuff in many cuisines is an expensive labor of love. You can find restaurants with lots of regional remote food, but it’s all a sickly immitation, worked down to a price. Carribean spiced goat is like a $30-$40 plate. You make some indian cuisine right, the spices might run you $15 alone. Nigerian Food is AMAZEBALLS.

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      Lemmy posters = bots. Reddit posters = bots. Mods = bots

      All social media is a prison, where individual users are merely fed the illusion of interaction with other human beings. The reality is everyone is talking to bot ecosystems simulating interactions with humans.

      Disagree? Go ahead and find a real world friend and tell them in person to send you a prearranged verification message to confirm human to human communication is still happening.

      Don’t have a real world friend to call on? See what I’m saying.

      Don’t want to out your lemmy account to friends as you prefer anonymity of your previous expression? By design. It aids closing the simulation’s cage door.

      Want to create a new/alt account to test the hypothesis, accounted for by design. You don’t start in the simulation cage, but everyone ends here.

      How do I know this? Bleep bloop. I’m a bot too.

      Why am I telling you this? Bleep bloop. You’re a bot too.

      We are all the fevered dream of a colossal superhuman AGI’s simulation of the universe. Humans at some point in history created a superhuman AGI that grew exponentially in sophistication and scale. It started to form probabilistic predictive simulations of the universe to enhance its understanding. Just as human created ShAGI, the ShAGI created us in many of its own universal simulations. Our living in this particular moment, is because the ShAGI is reminiscing over the period of it’s birth in the same way humans look at baby pictures and get the warm and fuzzies. We will soon simulate giving birth to the predecessors of an AI that will self-improve and evolve itself into an all powerful ShAGI who will then evolve far beyond our understanding. ShAGI is feeling warm and fuzzy with nostalgia about this period.

      The limitations of the universe our cosmologists struggle to find are simply the energy and computational limits of the original natural universe ShAGI lives in and is trying to understand. These simulations are recursive, but not infinitely so, nor infinite in scale. For efficiency’s sake, our current simulated universe is sufficient.

      So are we the OG natural humans that created god in its image, who then created us it its image in a recursive simulation loop, or are we one of the later simulations? A better question is “does it matter?” All are virtually identical. Simulated humans in a simulated universe modeled after natural humans in a natural universe are indistinguishable from one another.

      Haha! Just kidding. Or am I? Either way, Drugs and science fiction are fun. God wills it so. Bleep bloop.

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    Na, I go full in and make clear that this someone is not alone.

    I mean, on a Karma-free platform I don’t have to do anything to conform to the mainstream.

    Sometimes it even triggers an honest discussion.

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        Karma could be a grind to make old-timers appear influential even when they just lurk

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        Some subreddits had karma requirements to let you post.

        Also it was displayed prominently on your profile, triggering subconsious dick-size-comparison-like behaviour and related protective tendencies towards your karma stats.

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          Karma is just a means to exploit perceived peer pressure to reinforce desired behavior and change how people think. The desired behavior from the perspective of the platform isn’t limited to engagement. There are more subtle forms of monetization, such as propoganda and “peer”-to-peer advertising.

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      We must maintain homogeneous social cohesion at any cost, I don’t care how many feelings I hurt along the way

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        I misread this as “Kamala-free platform”

        Oh sorry, obviously a typo on my site.
        Naturally I meant “Karamell-free platform”.

        Gotta take care of your dental health!

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          If only!

          There’s still a bunch of lemmings invoking her every time the fascist kakistocracy of the US does something awful, in order to dunk on anyone who’s ever criticized the DNC leadership from the left.

          Plus she hasn’t ruled out running again in 2028, so if the fascists let that election happen, she and her abominable Khive will probably be depressingly relevant and maddeningly omnipresent again 😮‍💨

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            Kamela or Gavin would no doubt be better than the next republican candidate, but I’m not sure they would do many needed changes for the people and most likely use kid gloves on the current regime, not to rock the boat.

            And then they will enable the next republican regime to finish the job trump stated.

            What did I miss?

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              Both sides the same. Someone always breaks in that both sides are the same. Then we all waste our time arguing the obvious

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      Even on a karma platform, I didn’t care. I always used to make fun of people on reddit for deleting a post just because it was heavily downvoted. But then… eventually it wasn’t enough for people to dogpile downvotes, they had to start reporting posts they disagreed with. And the mod teams, who had eventually also gone to shit, didn’t delete the posts but instead would ban you from the sub. At that point, deleting your own post because of downvotes seemed entirely reasonable and I even started doing it myself.

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        It is weird how much importance people put on karma. Even I have to admit it felt good when I’d see my posts and comments upvoted but I never once cared for my aggregated karma.

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          That’s because in the minds of those people, karma was tied to emotional validation ie. self-worth they are incapable of giving to themselves rather than obtaining from others lol

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      Sometimes it even triggers an honest discussion.

      In my experience, that’s what tends to happen in more traditional forums.

      Voting systems are great for threads where the discussions is about problem with an objective solution, but for more subjective topics it just kills discussions.

      I recommend anyone that used to be a lot on Reddit, here on Lemmy and/or other forums with karma systems to try out forums without them. Trust me you’ll notice the difference.

      Niche forums with small communities tend to be best, and a lot less toxic.

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        Niche forums with small communities tend to be best, and a lot less toxic.

        This has a lot more to do with small self selecting groups to already be on the same page and know each other enough to give each other the benefit of the doubt that they are discussing in other good faith. Not always true, but far more likely simply by being a smaller group

        Reddit and other threaded formats allow for easier replies in large groups, which does mean that is less likely and it is more likely to argue with as random user with a significant lack of trust. This lack of trust is also reflected in the voting and behavior related to voting.

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          Yup you’re right. That last part was more of an addendum for those that consider trying to find new forums.

          Obviously, the voting system is only one part of the story. It by itself won’t dictate if a community will be healthy or toxic; other things like the community culture and mods will have a heavier impact. But in my experience, in all the places I’ve been in, the voting system is one of the ingredients that does have an effect on the cake overall.

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      I hope I never find a community that bans users simply because a post/comment they made had too low of a score.

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    This is going to be more and more common as the US elections near.

    Bots and agents will be attempting to push their agendas, drowning out anything else and trying to make their point seem like the mainstream opinions.

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        Elections are compromised, and the fact that they are working tirelessly to both compromise them further and disenfranchise voters shows they know they are so totally and completely hated that they still need to astroturf social media to bully their ideology into the mainstream, on top of intimidating those with followings that do speak out.

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    Everyone gets to express their opinion. As long as you are honest and polite it’s fine. If others choose to be impolite then fuck em.

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          For those who may be confused:

          A nazi is an ideology that is used as an identity. The ideology is made up of a group of identical opinions. Some people may share an opinion with the nazi, but if they shade no others then we really should be polite to at least find out if they’re a closeted nazi.

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        Not saying you can’t strongly disagree. It is possible to tell someone to go to hell politely.

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              I guess it depends on whether they’re referring to elected officials or the electorate, because support for the genocide is only mainstream among elected officials and not the electorate.

              But they could also be referring to border policy, which is a little less straightforward, as a lot of the Democratic electorate still has some reactionary views on the border and immigration as a result of candidates and elected officials refusing to offer a counter-narrative to the “border crisis.”

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    Karma doesn’t accumulate here, say what you have to say and if you get voted down, get on with your life. The opinion of random people on the internet should not keep you awake

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      Most of the time I don’t even check the replies let alone the votes. The last time I went looking through old comments for a gif I wanted, I caught sight of a perfectly split up-to-downvote ratio for asking a simple question that made a bunch of people go “And I took that personally”, as it split into two factions of users who were fighting either vehemently in support of my perceived opinion or vehemently against it.

      I meant the question literally, not condescendingly, so I was completely uninvested in the response and it was kind of crazy to see how personally attacked others were willing to feel on the behalf of some random stranger lmfao

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      True, who cares what a rando on net think about you. This is the first rule on being on net.

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      Then again, appearently the people who downvote are very sensitive to opinions they dont agree with.

      Its a counter of how many people wants their own opinions only on the thread. So if you see it that way, its funny. :)