• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    This is very stupid way to put it

    You have no evidence of no god.

    You could disprove specific religions making specific claims, sure. But to say there is no god anywhere in the universe of any sort? That is not a claim you can prove.

    Now if you want to reframe antitheists as anti-specific theology on Earth, then what you say makes sense. But you can’t both propose a new definition mid-conversation, and then argue that my statement that was based on the first definition is stupid because you’re using the second.

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      4 days ago

      The claim is not “there is no god”.

      The claim is that there is a god, or multiples of them

      There’s no need to claim that there is no god? It doesn’t make any sense to try to prove something like that. A claim requires evidence, extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence.

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        4 days ago

        For example many people think that “there’s no gods, and theistic religions are harmful to our society”

        The claim is not “there is no god”.

        I don’t know that to tell you. This seems internally inconsistent.

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          3 days ago

          Yes, “there’s no god” is not a claim, it’s just the logical conclusion from all of this.

          It’s like concluding that daddy long legs didn’t evolve from a Chinese dragon

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            3 days ago

            “there is no god” is definitely a claim. It can be falsified with evidence (in theory. I don’t think such evidence exists).

            Perhaps you mean “I don’t believe there’s a god” or “I haven’t seen evidence to convince me there’s a god”? Those aren’t claims. Those can’t be falsified. They’re opinions based on evaluation of evidence.

            But we’re quibbling over minutia at this point.