• Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I’ve been to cities with nice public transit and clean streets.

    I still don’t like cities.

    But I appreciate that if we make cities nicer and more convenient more people would choose them and they’d stop tearing up wild places.

    I will not live in your cities. But I know why they must exist.

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      Unless you’re making your own soap etc, you’re still living in a society which wouldn’t function without said cities. So live in them or no, you’re still dependant on them.

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          3 days ago

          I mean, you could just learn to make your own soap?

          It’s not that hard, just a bit labour intensive at times. But if you actually hunted game you might actually have the ingredients as extra. And you could easily still have it be nice soap, by also having a garden and making simple extracts from plants like jasmine and whatnot for scents.

          I’m kinda jealous about some American “homesteaders” at times, because America is just way better for that, geographically and bureaucratically than Finland. Not that I could afford it anyway but… A man can dream.

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            3 days ago

            We also have some pretty nice homesteaders in Danmark if you want to find som nearby to see.

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            3 days ago

            First learn to make your own sodium hydroxide. You can’t get away from dependence on others, everything is more complex than it looks

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                3 days ago

                Indeed, but it’s another necessary step. Nothing is as simple as it seems. You probably need the wood plantation anyway for fuel

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                  2 days ago

                  Oh ofc not. Check the video in my comment from the timestamp.

                  Making soap would be just one item. It’d be somewhat challenging to make literally everything you need from scratch. Not impossible but, challenging.

                  “wood plantation for fuel” uh I’m Finnish and I’ve lived in houses with wood stoves half my life I’m afraid I don’t quite get your meaning

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              You and me both brother. Albeit I still have this silly notion of educating others and perhaps not everything sucking as bad in the future. But that’s the naive kid in me.

              I’m pretty sure I could make soap. Catch a deer, process it properly, render a good measure of fat somewhere, the good white fat you scratch from the top.

              Make potash; Drip water through hardwood ashes in a bucket with a filtered hole. Boil the collected brown liquid until a fresh egg floats in.

              Then

              Make Soap: Heat the fat until melted. Slowly stir in the potash liquid. Boil and stir until it thickens into a heavy paste (it will likely be a soft/liquid soap).

              But that’s just one utility item, and a daily one. All the toothpaste and other cleaning supplies as well and whatnot. Ofc you could get basics from companies which abide by your morals, if such exist.

              Here’s a not wholly unrelevant thing from J Draper on utube

              https://youtu.be/2RxwwC3c89k?t=2m55s

              It’s about a large victorian households needs for servants and the timestamped bit talks of outdoor servants so like who would’ve hunted the game and maybe made potash idk