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Gen. Dan Caine, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, repeatedly warned Trump that Iran would likely disrupt the Strait of Hormuz in response to a U.S. attack, according to a new report in the Wall Street Journal.

Trump, 79, told his administration that he thought Iran would capitulate to the U.S. before it closed the Strait, adding that even if the Strait was threatened, the U.S. military could handle it.

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    This minorfucker and his DUI hire didn’t calculate shit. Probably just type into Grok for a intelligence assessment and went with it.

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    We fucking got our asses kicked in smaller countries like Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

    Who would have thought the US could win against Iran?

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      The biggest mistake they made was thinking Iran is like Iraq, Syria, or Afghanistan—countries characterized by dictatorship or clannism/tribalism, where the populations were already divided. Although it is an Islamic Republic, Iran operates as a republic with regular elections where citizens vote for government officials. This is a long-established system that maintains a degree of popular support. Unlike those other states, where it was easier for outside forces to support separatists, the current situation has instead bolstered the government’s narrative. They have effectively managed to convince many that the government was telling the truth about the U.S. and Israel intending to destroy Iran. Ultimately, this has united a large portion of the population behind the state. I fear it will be a long conflict unless something fundamental changes.

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    This asshole seems incapable of humiliation.

    He should be ashamed to even show up in public given what he’s done and what a dumbass he is, but I see him in front of cameras nearly daily, mugging and gesturing and holding forth, often for very long periods of time.

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        “He says what I’m thinking!” (and gets away with it - that’s the thing that really sends a tingle up their legs - they have wet dreams about being able to say and do the sorts of things that PEDOnald did all his life and had no consequences for it)

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      His neurons have rotten and fallen out of his ears, he doesn’t have the brain capacity to be humiliated

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        I think even at 20, he didn’t really have to ever face real, grinding humiliation. Except for maybe from his parents.

        I think he and his cuckservative cult members all just tell themselves that anything that might be humiliating to him is just someone else having what they call “TDS”.

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    How does anyone still listen to him? Every decision he’s ever made has not come from a place of intelligence, reason or foresight, but just what he feels at that moment.

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        I think when you’re born with that much money, you don’t tend to lose it easily. His father insulated him from his stupid decisions. Now he’s got a cult of personality behind him and is way further insulated from his stupidity. He’s failed upwards his whole life because he’s privileged.

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          I mean, he was just a millionaire real estate developer. He successfully infiltrated the US executive branch and used it strategically to become a billionaire.

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            He was given $500 million from his dad. When you have that much money, you point at stuff you want to happen and people you pay make it happen. He’s been a grifter his whole life and takes advantage of people even more stupid than he is. The only difference now is that it seems there’s more of those stupid people in his orbit that he can feed off of.

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        You might need to renegotiate how to define winning to fully encapsulate what Trump is doing.

        Trump, and all other Boomers, seemed to have figured out that they are going to die. And they, like the baby pharaohs that they have become, want their slaves and animals and civilization to die with them so that no one can enjoy the life the pharaohs have to leave behind.

        Trump trying the great Pyrrhic victory of all time. Which no matter what is still a loss.

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      There are a whole lot of dumbasses out there would rather have a complete idiot in power rather than someone that makes them feel stupid, or, in other words, is clearly smarter, more educated, and more capable than they are.

      It’s an infuriating trait and I don’t understand it at all.

      I could do a better job than this idiot, and I am self-aware and smart enough to realize I have no business being anywhere near that kind of job. I happen to want people far smarter, more experienced, more education, and more wisdom than myself in there. I don’t feel smaller by having someone better than me in there.

      This is about the only job I can think of where there are certain types of idiots that cast about for non-experts for that role. You don’t people agitating to have “outsiders” in their sportsball team. You don’t see them calling for things like “term limits” on sports, either. Same for a whole host of occupations. People don’t put out ads for positions at companies seeking someone with zero experience, but who makes them feel good about their own capabilities in comparison.

      But, for a role that We, The People hire for, we have this incredibly bizarre and stupid selection criteria - dumb things that include “wanting to have a beer with them”, or “running the country like a business”. Things like intelligence, capability, education, wisdom, and experience don’t seem to really matter for this hiring process.

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        The funny thing is that that actually makes you very good for the job, or at least it’s major part of it. A leader of anything from a company to a small work team needs to be the kind of person who can assemble teams of experts and give them the resources they need to succeed.

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              100%: that’s the kind of leader that tends to get nearly unswerving (real) loyalty and admiration from their team, too.

              I’ve seen plenty of weak leadership in both private sector and in the government in my personal work life, and when you see someone that is secure enough to be humble enough to seek out and value those that are better than them at things is something to truly treasure. If they don’t have someone sabotaging them from above, that team is often a sight to behold in how much they can accomplish.

              Weak leadership usually seeks out yes-men, will hire their friends, fraternity brothers, and former co-workers even when it makes no sense - will even engage in nepotism - in order to get people that will rubber stamp their activities

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        I could do a better job than this idiot, and I am self-aware and smart enough to realize I have no business being anywhere near that kind of job. I happen to want people far smarter, more experienced, more education, and more wisdom than myself in there. I don’t feel smaller by having someone better than me in there.

        You got my vote!

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          Ha ha! No way I’d ever win even a low-level office; I’m not much for the small talk, I am a terrible speaker, and not great at pressing of the flesh and so on.

          Also, I really have no business doing such work - I’m not very great at time management, my people management skills are subpar, and my in-person/on the spot memory is trash. I have no background in law or politics, either.

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      A combination of: the people in positions of power stand to benefit personally for decisions that are bad for everyone else, and a failure of the people to hold him to account (which is itself caused by a mix of apathy, ignorance, and hatred).

      It’s only surprising if you have taken the competence and stability demonstrated over the last 70 years for granted.

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    How can it be miscalculated when it wasn’t even calculated at all to begin with?

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    I love Hegseth’s response. It’s handled. We’re taking care of it. So don’t worry about it.

    Like dude bro, they’re not “worried about it,” in their job capacity as reporters, they are asking you about it because it’s their job.

    This isn’t like “who’s gonna load the dishwasher?” “Don’t worry about it, I’ve got it covered.”

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    Trump, 79, told his administration that he thought Iran would capitulate to the U.S. before it closed the Strait, adding that even if the Strait was threatened, the U.S. military could handle it

    Hitler, forcing his experienced Generals to follow his own incompetent strategies.

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        Woah … Hitler doesnt get to have redeeming qualities. Im serious – nothing about Hitler is a brightside.

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          Trump’s Humiliating War Miscalculation Exposed

          and Trump not going to Vietnam is a good thing: if only more Americans got out of going.

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            I don’t blame any one for avoiding that abomination of a war. Anyone who resisted it in any way was doing their patriotic duty.

            What I have a problem with, are those who avoided service themselves, only to grow up to launch wars to send the next generation to war.

            Chicken Hawks are the lowest form of politician.

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    We are rapidly approaching the decision point between fighting and dying for Trump and hesgeth in Iran or fighting in Washington for ourselves.

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        We are waiting for the Midterms. There is no sense in blowing up America now, when we still have a couple of legal options left. If we get through the Midterms and 2028, we might be able to rebuild.

        But if they somehow manage to cheat their way out of the Midterm bloodbath, there will be serious repercussions, and if they steal the 2028 election, it’s all over. Then we have nothing to lose, and it’s Civil War.

        Also, if they cancel/suspend an election. We’ve never done that in American history, not even during the Civil War. That is a bright red line, that must not be crossed. If he announces that elections are cancelled, then we no longer have a democracy, America is dead, and it’s Civil War.

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          We are waiting for the Midterms. There is no sense in blowing up America now, when we still have a couple of legal options left. If we get through the Midterms and 2028, we might be able to rebuild.

          I wonder how many foreigners you guys are willing to sacrifice. You know that without the US’ support, the genocide in Gaza would not be possible, right?

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            The worst people in the world have taken control of our country. The good citizens of America are trying desperately to take it back, and we will, one way or another.

            And when we do, we are going to INSIST that this country move decisively in a better direction. No more business as usual. After what we’ve been through, and put the world through, it will be time for serious reform in every way.

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              I wish the Democrats would have a clear agenda on that. A few fundamental fixes to the system to prevent another decent into lawlessness (thins like elections on a Sunday, no corporate money in politics, strong demonopolisation, especially in media,…). But I haven’t seen anything “radical” from them yet.

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      Doing nothing might have its merits.

      Let the Islamacists and American imperialists fight it out.

      Work to cushion yourselves. Spring is 6 days away. more sun for solar and gardening—better cycling weather too.

      Bush had a stupid war in Iraq about 20 years ago.

      Trump is having a stupid war in Iran.

      Perhaps when stupid Americans vote another idiot as GOP President, in 10 to 20 years (we might even have a President Vance), America will get it’s ass kicked by yet another country fighting asymmetrically.

      wt:plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

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    I’m hoping that the military leadership is starting to realize that they WILL have to forcefully remove Trump, if anything to protect the safety and security of the country. Also the PRIMARY purpose of the US Armed forces is:

    1. To support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic.

    Not one fucking word about protecting pedos or presidents.

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      You mean the military that’s commanded by people who were telling their troops that Trump was sent by God to protect Israel? Yeah, I wouldn’t get your hopes up.

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      Remember, within the first month of this term, he fired all the 5-star generals and other military leadership who would have had the wherewithal to pull this off.

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        You say “fired all the five star generals”, I say “created new leadership opportunities for disgruntled veterans”.

        America is going to end up with two armies, one full of soldiers and one full of sycophants and idiots. Boy, this doesn’t sound familiar or anything, does it?

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      Only an American would ever possibly hope for a military coup… I know you guys don’t have a lot of history, but if that happened, it would be much, much worse than Trump.

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      It would not be a difficult math problem nor a stretch to calculate and conclude that he is a domestic enemy.

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    Trump, 79, told his administration that he thought Iran would capitulate to the U.S. before it closed the Strait

    Yeah that’s what it seemed like, he thought he’d just bomb a little and everything would go his way. Got hopped up success in Venezuela and thought it would be the same.

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    jfc what fucking president says “bombing the hell out of the shoreline”. This isn’t call of duty with your buddies dumbass

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    What’s funny is they got into this mess solely by their own crass ignorance. I’m persuaded they thought it would be like Syria or other asymmetrical wars they fought. Well though luck dipshits, Iran is a whole other kind of beast.

    They already shit their pants in Afghanistan despite it being literally nicknamed “the graveyard of empires”. But Iran is not that, Iran is its own empire and has been for thousands of years. Good luck trying to get Elamites and Medes to bend the knee. You’re not the first to try.

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      This is an extremely weird take. Iran/Persia and its predecessors have been conquered many times. As far back as Alexander and as recently as WW2 with the Arabs, Turks, Mongols all taking control of it in between. Iran’s culture is as unique as it is because of all the ethnic admixture, not due to some imagined unbroken ancestry from Elam.

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        You’re right to point that out it’s shady to conflate a modern nation with some past empire within its borders, i didn’t mean it like that, or in the ethnic way.

        I meant that this region, broadly speaking “Persia”, has often been the center of its own empire and a peer to its neighbors. It’s not some recently stabilized nation state with limited collective experience, it’s an old old place that already had a complex urban economy when western Europe was still neolithic. That’s why i joke with the Elamites, that shit is deep history man, broken to the yoke of empire time and time again.

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      Well though luck dipshits, Iran is a whole other kind of beast.

      If only every single person who knew anything at all about Iran had tried to tell them this repeatedly for years and years.

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        Isn’t that kind of their signature moves? Trying something that sounds kinda sorta like common sense but it’s profoundly stupid or has already failed countless times before…

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    Why does Trump want the strait OPEN?

    He’s the one that CLOSED it.

    Ooh yea, that OLD trick he uses when he makes a problem and then fixes the problem he made.