That operates on the assumption I love my country deeply and I absolutely don’t, the only reason I would ever fight for it is if I hated the invaders more and even then if there was no chance of success I’d definitely be spending my time trying to build a better future than wasting it on fruitless hatred.
Look, Palestinian rights would increase under a leader like Rabin and it opens up potential futures where reparations are paid, individual ownerships of private properties get returned or remunerated, etc. Saying the only option is separate Palestinian statehood with no steps taked in between to accomplish that is the stance standing in the way of Palestinian rights. Before respect for rights and freedoms can be obtained from enemies you first need to achieve peaceful coexistence with them.
Rabin said he will not give palestinian a state and will not returned all part of the region they stole in 67. You are denying palestinians rights. You support settler colonialism. No amount of mental gymnastic will change that fact. You will not advocate for ukraine giving up part of their land to russia. You would never accept a russisn version of Rabin either because you are a racist
Me saying Rabin was a better PM concerning Palestine doesn’t support colonialism. Me supporting coexistence between Israelis and Palestinians isn’t support of colonialism. You wanting to cover up past bloodshed with future bloodshed, removing people who lived their lives on a plot of land, is support of colonialism. TBH I don’t give a fuck about either Israel or Palestine, neither has any right for militant action against the other.
Rabin said he will not give palestinian a state and will not returned all part of the region they stole in 67. You are denying palestinians rights. You support settler colonialism. No amount of mental gymnastic will change that fact. You will not advocate for ukraine giving up part of their land to russia. You would never accept a russisn version of Rabin either because you are a racist
An actionable plan should include all land stolen after 1967 back anf give palestinians all thier right including an army to defend itself.
Rabin said he will not give palestinian a state and will not returned all part of the region they stole in 67. You are denying palestinians rights. You support settler colonialism. No amount of mental gymnastic will change that fact. You will not advocate for ukraine giving up part of their land to russia. You would never accept a russisn version of Rabin either because you are a racist
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Wishes don’t come true, figure out an actionable plan.
And hey, I don’t like Israel either, Netanyahu should have died and Rabin should have lived in the good timeline, but we can’t support red fascists even if we don’t like the blue ones
Ukraine can win the war against Russia. Ukraine has not been occupied for almost a century and surrounded on all sides. Palestinians cannot win by, for example, attacking music festivals using funds and weapons routed from China via Iran. Like it or not, Palestinian’s only prospects for a future rely solely on garnering support from Europe, the USA, and even from within Israel itself. Telling them to go and reclaim their land by force is asking them to kill themself.
Rabin was assassinated by Palestine’s enemies for a reason.
If ukraine can’t win you would support Ukranian giving up part of their land?
Palestinians can win if all those genocidial supporting countries : the usa , canada, china etc did it’s obligations they accepted by signing the genocide convention
Rabin said he will not give palestinian a state and will not returned all part of the region they stole in 67. You are denying palestinians rights. You support settler colonialism.
In a pure hypothetical, absolutely foreign to our reality, if Ukraine was occupied for almost a century and surrounded by all sides, then Ukrainians would need to be organizing with Russians and other nations to enact change as peacefully as possible. Violence would be more beneficial to Russia than to Ukraine. It’s kind of like how Ghandi didn’t march trucks full of explosives into London.
I’m going to leave this conversation now because it stopped being productive after about the second or third reply.
That operates on the assumption I love my country deeply and I absolutely don’t, the only reason I would ever fight for it is if I hated the invaders more and even then if there was no chance of success I’d definitely be spending my time trying to build a better future than wasting it on fruitless hatred.
Look, Palestinian rights would increase under a leader like Rabin and it opens up potential futures where reparations are paid, individual ownerships of private properties get returned or remunerated, etc. Saying the only option is separate Palestinian statehood with no steps taked in between to accomplish that is the stance standing in the way of Palestinian rights. Before respect for rights and freedoms can be obtained from enemies you first need to achieve peaceful coexistence with them.
Rabin said he will not give palestinian a state and will not returned all part of the region they stole in 67. You are denying palestinians rights. You support settler colonialism. No amount of mental gymnastic will change that fact. You will not advocate for ukraine giving up part of their land to russia. You would never accept a russisn version of Rabin either because you are a racist
Me saying Rabin was a better PM concerning Palestine doesn’t support colonialism. Me supporting coexistence between Israelis and Palestinians isn’t support of colonialism. You wanting to cover up past bloodshed with future bloodshed, removing people who lived their lives on a plot of land, is support of colonialism. TBH I don’t give a fuck about either Israel or Palestine, neither has any right for militant action against the other.
You should wish someone better than Rabin.
Rabin said he will not give palestinian a state and will not returned all part of the region they stole in 67. You are denying palestinians rights. You support settler colonialism. No amount of mental gymnastic will change that fact. You will not advocate for ukraine giving up part of their land to russia. You would never accept a russisn version of Rabin either because you are a racist
Wishes don’t come true, figure out an actionable plan.
An actionable plan should include all land stolen after 1967 back anf give palestinians all thier right including an army to defend itself.
Rabin said he will not give palestinian a state and will not returned all part of the region they stole in 67. You are denying palestinians rights. You support settler colonialism. No amount of mental gymnastic will change that fact. You will not advocate for ukraine giving up part of their land to russia. You would never accept a russisn version of Rabin either because you are a racist
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That’s a wish lol.
Ukraine can win the war against Russia. Ukraine has not been occupied for almost a century and surrounded on all sides. Palestinians cannot win by, for example, attacking music festivals using funds and weapons routed from China via Iran. Like it or not, Palestinian’s only prospects for a future rely solely on garnering support from Europe, the USA, and even from within Israel itself. Telling them to go and reclaim their land by force is asking them to kill themself.
Rabin was assassinated by Palestine’s enemies for a reason.
If ukraine can’t win you would support Ukranian giving up part of their land?
Palestinians can win if all those genocidial supporting countries : the usa , canada, china etc did it’s obligations they accepted by signing the genocide convention
Rabin said he will not give palestinian a state and will not returned all part of the region they stole in 67. You are denying palestinians rights. You support settler colonialism.
In a pure hypothetical, absolutely foreign to our reality, if Ukraine was occupied for almost a century and surrounded by all sides, then Ukrainians would need to be organizing with Russians and other nations to enact change as peacefully as possible. Violence would be more beneficial to Russia than to Ukraine. It’s kind of like how Ghandi didn’t march trucks full of explosives into London.
I’m going to leave this conversation now because it stopped being productive after about the second or third reply.