Rabin promised less than a state exactly how the oslo accords are currently implemented. Fuck him too.
Here what the Israeli historian Illan Pappe said
ISM: Yair Lapid, the head of the Ministry of Finance of the new coalition government, stated on 20th May that Israel is not going to stop the colonization of the West Bank or end subsidies for illegal settlers, which in fact will not only continue but increase. Do you think that any switch of parties in power could truly make an impact on this situation?
IP: No. We haven’t had any party or leader different from the others, including Rabin, who became a hero after he was shot. Israelis like Lapid are always busy implementing policies so that the land has no Palestinians – so in this sense Lapid is just continuing what everyone before him was doing. The problem they have is not technical – they know how to do it, they have a script. They do not build new settlements, but they allow the natural growth of the current settlements, while Palestinians are not allowed natural growth. Then they say they’re not building a new settlement, but need to build a new neighbourhood because the settlement population has grown. So you can see from this that they do not have any technical problem, it’s more that they maintain this funny dialogue with the world: “You know that we are colonizing, you know that we are ethnically cleansing the Palestinians, you know that we are keeping them in prison, but still we are playing this game where we are speaking about a peace process.”
It’s extremely easy to verify that Rabin was pro-peace and much better than any PM who came after the Israeli right wing assassinated him. I don’t think that ISM run website you linked to is doing Palestine any favors by standing against any kind of peaceful coexistence.
Ilan Pappé is a respectable Israeli historian. It is pretty clear that Rabin was not pro-peace. You Israel good, Netanyahu bad guys are the one hurting the Palestinian cause. Just because more extremist then him killed him doesn’t mean he was a good israeli leader
His own words
The Jewish people, which has known suffering and pain, has also known how to preserve its faith, its heritage and its tradition during thousands of years of exile and has realized the dream of generations. We have, with our own eyes, been privileged to see the return to Zion, the return of the children to their borders.
after two thousand years, restored to its** lawful owners** – the members of the Jewish people. On its land, we have built an exceptional national home and state.
In the framework of the permanent solution, we aspire to reach, first and foremost, the State of Israel as a Jewish state, at least 80% of whose citizens will be, and are, Jews.
We would like this to be an entity which is less than a state and which will independently run the lives of the Palestinians under its authority. The borders of the State of Israel, during the permanent solution, will be beyond the lines which existed before the Six-Day War. We will not return to the 4 June 1967 lines.
First and foremost, united Jerusalem, which will include both Ma’ale Adumim and Givat Ze’ev – as the capital of Israel, under Israeli sovereignty
East Jerusalem is Palestinian
D. The establishment of blocs of settlements in Judea and Samaria, like the one in Gush Katif.
Judea and Samaria was destroyed and not by the Palestinians. Only the west bank exists and all of it is Palestinian
He supported the colonization and did not support returning all rightful land to Palestinians which is pre-67 borders
Israeli settlement construction in the West Bank and East Jerusalem significantly accelerated during the years of the Oslo Accord talks
Nothing but a full sovereign Palestinian state with all it’s right on pre-67 border is acceptable . Not a single country would accept a partial liberation of it’s territory
You would never accept your country being occupied than only part of it is returned to you. It is pretty clear you don’t support the end of occupation. Why are you denying palestinians rights?
That operates on the assumption I love my country deeply and I absolutely don’t, the only reason I would ever fight for it is if I hated the invaders more and even then if there was no chance of success I’d definitely be spending my time trying to build a better future than wasting it on fruitless hatred.
Look, Palestinian rights would increase under a leader like Rabin and it opens up potential futures where reparations are paid, individual ownerships of private properties get returned or remunerated, etc. Saying the only option is separate Palestinian statehood with no steps taked in between to accomplish that is the stance standing in the way of Palestinian rights. Before respect for rights and freedoms can be obtained from enemies you first need to achieve peaceful coexistence with them.
Rabin said he will not give palestinian a state and will not returned all part of the region they stole in 67. You are denying palestinians rights. You support settler colonialism. No amount of mental gymnastic will change that fact. You will not advocate for ukraine giving up part of their land to russia. You would never accept a russisn version of Rabin either because you are a racist
Rabin promised less than a state exactly how the oslo accords are currently implemented. Fuck him too.
Here what the Israeli historian Illan Pappe said
https://palsolidarity.org/2013/07/interview-with-ilan-pappe-the-basic-israeli-ideology-zionism-is-the-problem/
It’s extremely easy to verify that Rabin was pro-peace and much better than any PM who came after the Israeli right wing assassinated him. I don’t think that ISM run website you linked to is doing Palestine any favors by standing against any kind of peaceful coexistence.
Ilan Pappé is a respectable Israeli historian. It is pretty clear that Rabin was not pro-peace. You Israel good, Netanyahu bad guys are the one hurting the Palestinian cause. Just because more extremist then him killed him doesn’t mean he was a good israeli leader
His own words
East Jerusalem is Palestinian
Judea and Samaria was destroyed and not by the Palestinians. Only the west bank exists and all of it is Palestinian
He supported the colonization and did not support returning all rightful land to Palestinians which is pre-67 borders
Israeli settlement construction in the West Bank and East Jerusalem significantly accelerated during the years of the Oslo Accord talks
https://jewishvirtuallibrary.org/pm-rabin-speech-to-knesset-on-ratification-of-oslo-peace-accords
That quote about Palestine is a thousand times better than what Israel is doing now, so again, he was the good timeline and now is the bad timeline.
Nothing but a full sovereign Palestinian state with all it’s right on pre-67 border is acceptable . Not a single country would accept a partial liberation of it’s territory
That statement is no different than calling for war. The enemy of good should never be perfection or you will have neither in the end.
You would never accept your country being occupied than only part of it is returned to you. It is pretty clear you don’t support the end of occupation. Why are you denying palestinians rights?
That operates on the assumption I love my country deeply and I absolutely don’t, the only reason I would ever fight for it is if I hated the invaders more and even then if there was no chance of success I’d definitely be spending my time trying to build a better future than wasting it on fruitless hatred.
Look, Palestinian rights would increase under a leader like Rabin and it opens up potential futures where reparations are paid, individual ownerships of private properties get returned or remunerated, etc. Saying the only option is separate Palestinian statehood with no steps taked in between to accomplish that is the stance standing in the way of Palestinian rights. Before respect for rights and freedoms can be obtained from enemies you first need to achieve peaceful coexistence with them.
Rabin said he will not give palestinian a state and will not returned all part of the region they stole in 67. You are denying palestinians rights. You support settler colonialism. No amount of mental gymnastic will change that fact. You will not advocate for ukraine giving up part of their land to russia. You would never accept a russisn version of Rabin either because you are a racist