Analyses and video evidence emerged over the weekend showing that the air strike on the Shajareh Tayyebeh Girls’ Primary School on February 28—that killed over 160 girls aged 7 to 12—was carried out by the US military.

The girls’ school in Minab is in Iran’s southern Hormozgan province close to the Persian Gulf. The school was effectively pulverized by multiple blasts, and many of those killed were obliterated and could only be identified through DNA analysis. Footage showed bodies and body parts partially trapped under collapsed floors, alongside scattered schoolbags, notebooks and dust‑covered textbooks.

  • BassTurd@lemmy.world
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    2 天前

    Yes, but don’t give the soldiers that pulled the trigger a pass. They’re legally required to not follow illegal orders. All of them should be court marshalled and charged with war crimes.

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      For what? How could they possibly know that it was a school? They aren’t privy to the intel. They are on a boat or a base, maybe hundreds of miles away. They receive an order to fire on a location and follow the order.

      That’s exactly what they signed up for. Grunt work. Following orders.

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        Right. They don’t know anything at all about what they’re shooting at all because it’s abstract and viewed through computer screen.

        However they do know that the these orders are coming down from three possible sources. 1. Targeting specialists using enshitified useless AI services. 2. Chatbots themselves or 3. Child raping genocide mongers.

        Which why they just shouldn’t do it. Go to the brig. Sabotage the missile with a fork lift accident. Fake illness. Anything. I don’t care, do whatever you have to do to not be party to this monstrous thing that’s trying to burn the world down so Jesus will come back. And that’s why they are still responsible for it.

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        I rephrased in a follow up to someone else’s comment. The people that ordered the strike on old Intel should be charged. There were failures in the process, and those responsible should be held responsible.

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          11 小时前

          Yes, they should be charged. But they won’t be charged, because the executive branch is the very branch that runs law enforcement and the military. Why would they give themselves a black eye?

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          There’s no “just” about it. They were following orders AND they did not know. They couldn’t have known. The soldiers are given coordinates, not the details about what the structure is used for.

          The Nazis at Nuremburg could not claim ignorance. There was a clear paper trail. Nazis had killed millions for the reason of ethnic cleansing. They did it for years. They kept records.

          Tell me, how are these situations similar?

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            This is not an individual failure. It’s a systemic failure. Americans should pay for this. With their blood.

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              Nope. Not gonna read a 23 page document. YOU tell ME how it’s similar. Or at least copy/paste the relevant information.

              Second, I’m all about prosecuting war crimes. I’d love to see this one prosecuted. How about we actually investigate it, too? Maybe, I dunno, find out who gave the order. If bad intel was passed. If the leaders knew about the bad intel but decided to proceed.

              Ofc, this won’t actually happen. The “war” is just another distraction, until the next manufactured crisis and the next until humanity snuffs itself out with its own all-too-clever Machiavellian schemes.

              But by all means, throw the full weight of social justice at the poor sap who has to live with knowing his finger pushed a button that killed 160 innocent girls. Beloved daughters and sisters, erased from this world to amuse a demented billionaire’s ego.

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                You’re a bad faithed war crime apologist lmao.

                “They were just following orders” “So like the nazis” “No, not like that!!!”

                Nobody cares about your internal politics buddy. Maybe we could bomb one of your school to bring freedom to the USA

                But by all means, throw the full weight of social justice at the poor sap who has to live with knowing his finger pushed a button that killed 160 innocent girls.

                Yeah might as well just hang him. It’d just be mercy killing at this point

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            They knew they were bombing an enemy country unprovoked, which is illegal under international laws. I know you’re an american and thus a nazi, and that could have happened to you, but here’s an idea: maybe don’t enlist in an imperlalist force that kills children for breakfast.

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              You got me twisted, my friend. I fully condemn the military actions. All of them.

              But assigning blame to some random soldier? It’s like screaming at the waitress over a menu item. She didn’t write the menu, she doesn’t cook the food, she has literally no power over anyone.

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                No. It’s like screaming at the waitress who served arsenic to kids and killed 160 of them while knowing full well the restaurant sometimes do that

                How does it feel downplaying war crime?

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        If you were to throw a rock or fire a bullet, you are expected to LOOK where that projectile is going. You are held accountable for that action even if you miss your target. Only a child is deemed unaccountable for that sort action (up to about age 2). This is magnitudes more important when the missile explodes in a radius the size of a house. So there’s NO EXCUSE for the grunt on any level who pushes the button, and doesn’t LOOK or know where it is going. Are you saying military grunts are to tried as toodlers?!? for the crimes they commit?

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          They weren’t throwing rocks. They weren’t shooting a rifle. They were shooting missiles.

          Again, the soldier who fired that missile would have no idea what sort of building he’s been ordered to strike. That soldier is sitting in a command center somewhere, miles away from the front line, feeding coordinates into a targeting system.

          And, yes, grunts are usually treated EXACTLY like toddlers, especially in military court. That’s why they’re called “grunts”. They are trained to follow orders. They are trained to push the button without question. THAT’S THEIR JOB.

          Now, if a grunt is given an order which directly violates the military law, they can refuse. So, if their commanding officer said “Hey, I want you to kill those 170 underage civilians”, then the grunt can (and should) say “Hell no, sir”. That wasn’t the case here. There’s no reason for the grunt to refuse the order, because the grunt is just targeting a building, with a missile.

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            Nuremberg defense. They were just following orders. I hope they learn what they did. That’s enough for anybody to unalive themselves.

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      It’s unclear to me whether they would have known about this. I presume cross checking the targets should be done at each level down to the person pulling the trigger.

      Is it confirmed that everyone in the chain knew?

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        Compartmentalization. They get told “here is an Iranian military target, hit it”. So they do. Asking questions is strongly discouraged.

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        I suppose I don’t know. I should rephrase that whoever knew and ordered it should be in the hot seat. Word is that it was old target data they were going on. That by itself is a failure if true, which isn’t excusable. I’d be interested in when that school was built or transitioned to a school and the age of the data. This may be the result of a pedophile and his hair trigger war drive that meant due diligence wasn’t done.