Is “The animal rights activists are portrayed as cartoony villains and the abused animals are portrayed as liking their servitude” the tl;dr version?
(Can’t speak for digimon as I don’t know basically anything about it; my best guess would be…the digimon are equal partners in their relationship with the kids? For one thing they’re not shelved when they’re not in use)
Ah, I wouldn’t know, I never watched digimon and I got to pokemon way too late (I really do want to watch pokemon, but it’s clearly made for very young audiences)
If you want to watch some of the Pokémon anime, check it out on Internet Archive and Pokemon TV is uploading every episode slowly.
The early seasons are pure brainrot (I mean this as a compliment but the writers were clearly just making it up as they went along), but I still kind of like it because Pokemon to me is the closest thing there is to a highly mainstream solarpunk story.
I think the Pokémon generation before Team PETA the anime had a rival character that was way worse than previous rivals/ antagonist characters. A lot of the fans say that he is better/ more mature but everything I read of him seems to suggest more than the Sinnoh arc’s writers were too cowardly to call out abuse and give consequences. In the Kanto and Unova arc the conclusion to the abandoned fire starters was that their previous trainers were abusive assholes, that their standards are not something they should be striving towards and that they owe nothing to their past abusers. With the Sinnoh rival the conclusion sounded more like “He is not bad he’s just different. Ash just needs to prove his strength to the POS who was mean to him for petty and childish reasons even though Ash has been nothing but kind. The abandoned fire starter just needs to prove his strength to the jerk who forced him to use a life-threatening strategy that could have killed him if not for Ash’s intervention and then blamed everything on him and abandoned him even though he won under Ash’s instructions.”
The first two seasons of Digimon had the Digimon partners wanting their specific human partners right after birth.
spoilers for season 1 and 2
A backstory in the first season showed that the Digimon partner’s eggs were not entirely natural (compared to other Digimon) and had some ‘science’ modification that imprinted them to the human partners even before meeting face to face. One of the Digimon partner’s eggs was dropped during an evacuation of the lab they were made in and hence hatched separately from the other seven. After that partner hatched she spent time wondering, feeling like she should be awaiting somebody but not knowing who and hence feeling empty/ unhappy because of it. EDIT: Also season 2 established that partner Digimon can weaken if separated from their human partner. One character had a field trip to Kyoto and left her Digimon partner with another of the main characters to take care of for that duration. The result was that Digimon’s health deteriorated requiring the temporary caretaker to travel to Kyoto via the digital world to reunite the Digimon and human partner.
Season 3 (and I think 5) was when the Digimon partners were not born wanting to have a human partner and could choose their human partner. One Digimon’s backstory in 3 was that his human partners (who were much younger kids) were not good partners which got him to run away and the emotional consequences.
spoilers for season 3
Some time later in season 3 they mentioned that Digimon were made to have some affinity with children in general. So still kind of conditioned/ brainwashed like season 1 and 2 but not as bad.
4 had no partners; the humans became the Digimon themselves.
I don’t know about the later seasons.
EDIT 2: Added some more information for season 1 and 3 and put some plot-relevant stuff behind spoilers.
Is “The animal rights activists are portrayed as cartoony villains and the abused animals are portrayed as liking their servitude” the tl;dr version?
(Can’t speak for digimon as I don’t know basically anything about it; my best guess would be…the digimon are equal partners in their relationship with the kids? For one thing they’re not shelved when they’re not in use)
Pretty sure in the anime of digimon they’re like protectors of the kids they are destined to be paired with.
Ah, I wouldn’t know, I never watched digimon and I got to pokemon way too late (I really do want to watch pokemon, but it’s clearly made for very young audiences)
I’ve seen a bit of the show, but what I really like is the v-pet because it’s cute
If you want to watch some of the Pokémon anime, check it out on Internet Archive and Pokemon TV is uploading every episode slowly.
The early seasons are pure brainrot (I mean this as a compliment but the writers were clearly just making it up as they went along), but I still kind of like it because Pokemon to me is the closest thing there is to a highly mainstream solarpunk story.
i hate the fact that the best pokemon games have basically “PETA but secretly evil animal slavedrivers” as the villains
I think the Pokémon generation before Team PETA the anime had a rival character that was way worse than previous rivals/ antagonist characters. A lot of the fans say that he is better/ more mature but everything I read of him seems to suggest more than the Sinnoh arc’s writers were too cowardly to call out abuse and give consequences. In the Kanto and Unova arc the conclusion to the abandoned fire starters was that their previous trainers were abusive assholes, that their standards are not something they should be striving towards and that they owe nothing to their past abusers. With the Sinnoh rival the conclusion sounded more like “He is not bad he’s just different. Ash just needs to prove his strength to the POS who was mean to him for petty and childish reasons even though Ash has been nothing but kind. The abandoned fire starter just needs to prove his strength to the jerk who forced him to use a life-threatening strategy that could have killed him if not for Ash’s intervention and then blamed everything on him and abandoned him even though he won under Ash’s instructions.”
The first two seasons of Digimon had the Digimon partners wanting their specific human partners right after birth.
spoilers for season 1 and 2
A backstory in the first season showed that the Digimon partner’s eggs were not entirely natural (compared to other Digimon) and had some ‘science’ modification that imprinted them to the human partners even before meeting face to face. One of the Digimon partner’s eggs was dropped during an evacuation of the lab they were made in and hence hatched separately from the other seven. After that partner hatched she spent time wondering, feeling like she should be awaiting somebody but not knowing who and hence feeling empty/ unhappy because of it. EDIT: Also season 2 established that partner Digimon can weaken if separated from their human partner. One character had a field trip to Kyoto and left her Digimon partner with another of the main characters to take care of for that duration. The result was that Digimon’s health deteriorated requiring the temporary caretaker to travel to Kyoto via the digital world to reunite the Digimon and human partner.
Season 3 (and I think 5) was when the Digimon partners were not born wanting to have a human partner and could choose their human partner. One Digimon’s backstory in 3 was that his human partners (who were much younger kids) were not good partners which got him to run away and the emotional consequences.
spoilers for season 3
Some time later in season 3 they mentioned that Digimon were made to have some affinity with children in general. So still kind of conditioned/ brainwashed like season 1 and 2 but not as bad.
4 had no partners; the humans became the Digimon themselves.
I don’t know about the later seasons.
EDIT 2: Added some more information for season 1 and 3 and put some plot-relevant stuff behind spoilers.
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