Do we think they’ll pull a U-turn if Ferrari’s launches well?
Lamborghini simply don’t have the funds.
They had to scale back and eventually cancel their LMDh program last year.
Lamborghini is owned by the VW AUDI group. The self centered douches who buy these cars have no interest in EVs.
Can’t wait for 2035 when they are forced to make EVs
Forced? Non EVs are like the first Ford cars in 2030s
Reason: the driver wants to be heard while driving around, or “for the emotional connection” as they put it nicely in the article. Seems like prosthetic lion’s roar to me.
Harley Davidson tried to be progressive and be the first large manufacturer to make an electric motorcycle. No one bought them. Who buys a Harley not to make obnoxious noise?
There are a number of EVs that make all sorts of fake engine sounds, both to the interior and exterior. The feature is surprisingly popular.
God, that’s so pathetic on both parties tbh… Instead of focusing on the long term goals for the company and planet, they rather appeal to the short term goals for their brand and keep making combustion motors just so some vain lame can “sound cool.” Although all new vehicles imo should be hybrid by now, including diesel hybrids those would get crazy range from what I’ve heard.
You can sit on your high horse and make EV sportscars, but no one will buy one.
Also, these are bullshit brands. Typical owners keep them 24 months or less and barely drive 2000km a year.
Pretty sure Porsche’s EV models have been quite popular
Any of you ever seen an MG Cyberster? Yeah me neither
If they’d use synfuel it wouldn’t be that bad. It’s way more expensive that regular fuel but the rich fucks can pay that for the bragging rights. But every synfuel proposal gets swarmed by lobbyist trying to water it down to normal fuel with homeopathic amount of synfuel added
It takes more energy to make synfuel than just burning regular gas, and it makes the same amount of C02.
They should brand it sympfuel.
They already replaced the Huracan with a hybrid
Depends on the way they go, Hydrogen can be used in ICE and it’s still clean.
It’s wildly inefficient, but what Lambo is efficient? If they can have the best of both worlds, good luck to them.
If they mean lets keep with Fossil fuels, they can go fuck themselves.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE someones driving 300 miles per year on gas 🤣
I don’t think there is a more pathetic display of money. Rolex were on the top of my list with their expensive ugly watches.
vroom_vroom.mp3I got into a discussion some weeks ago about extremely expensive watches. I think they are stupid and just a “look at me, I’m rich” item. But, apparenty, I know jackshit about it because it’s all about the quality of the materials used and “the feel”. Seems a 10k watch is extremely better than a normal watch and I’m just too dumb to understand it because I don’t know how better it is when a watch uses precious metals in its gears instead of less-precious metals. This, said by a wage slave, by the way.
Suffice to say I realized it was pointless to go on with the discussion and I let it die after their “explanation” on why I was being dumb.
And, you just don’t understand that if you can afford a $40,000 watch with premium materials, it doesn’t matter that they don’t keep correct time.
I do understand that. But I hate hypocrisy. Just say that you buy it because you want to show how rich you are, don’t try to sell me the “superior quality of the gears make them better” bullshit.
Just be honest and say it clear: “I buy it because it’s expensive”. It’s fine. Except it’s not, because you are embarrassed to admit you only want to brag about money and instead try to lie others (and yourself) about the reason why you buy it.
A friend of mine has a few Rolex. Those watches are way less precise than a $5 quartz watch, it’s all about showing that you have money. The quality of the materials gives no advantage. They are objectively ugly too with the big round circles, and look like watches for kids who learn how read the time.
I’ve been told by rich guys that you must wear the strap a bit loose so that it the watch will rotate a bit around your wrist, which forces you to “put it back” while showing to others that you have a Rolex.
I don’t remember the specific name but it is a good start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspicuous_consumption
Exactly my thoughts on it. There are things that are expensive just because they are made so rich people can show off. Is there a point on having diamonds on a watch? No, it doesn’t make it better, just more expensive so you can show others how much money you have.
Same thing witd loud cars, they are made just so the owner can be the center of attention for a split second. I kinda feel bad for those idiots thinking they need to show off the money they have. It has to be one hell of an inferiority complex if you need to tell everybody how rich you are every moment of your life.
rolexes are actually extremely well made, though. that’s why they became so well-valued.
They were the watches people used because they were reliable and bomb-proof. (sometimes literally.)
They never kept accurate time. Asian knockoffs work better.
Rolexes fail at being watches compared to other products that cost $5. A “bomb-proof piece of jewelry” is not a convincing argument. The whole point is showing that you have money.
/sigh
Because things have always been the way they are today.
The point I’m making that you’re either ignoring or that you’re not understanding is that Rolex’s weren’t always so expensive, especially when you consider they’re mechanical and not digital, extract power from your wrist’s motion and have been known to run decades without any maintenance all in extreme conditions… and all that at a time when your cheap five dollar watch didn’t even fucking exist, and has never been able to replicate it’s endurance. Rolexes started as the affordable-but-reliable option and became the highly-valued, expensive pieces they are today because of their utility.
Completely unlike lambo supercars, which have always been temu ferrari, and catered to a very select group of stupid people.
that you think rolexes fail just demonstrates you don’t actually know what a rolex is, or who used them. and that’s okay. but don’t sit there and pretend like your $5 cheap piece of crap whose band will break inside a month is comparable. It’s laughably not.
Your reply to the above comment is a bit caustic. Here’s my take on your argument that explains your position in a rational way:
The bomb-proof and repair free nature of the Rolex comes into play in situations where replacement parts are not readily available. Consider an astronaut on a trip to Mars: they are out in space for months, in a ship where both space and weight are at a premium. A disposable time piece may be cheap on Earth, but without the means to replace it, it becomes a liability.
Similarly, someone on an exploration to a remote region - let’s say a member of the yearly British Antarctic Survey expedition - will not be able to replace a broken timepiece until they return at the end of the season. Not everyone needs a reliable time piece, but those who do - such as medics measuring a patient’s heart rate with a stethoscope - might go for something that has a lower failure rate.
Sure, a $5 timepiece is probably enough for most people, and wearing a Rolex as a status symbol is dumb, but that’s not the only use case for them.
Some Casio “black” watches have been recovered in some gardens after being buried for years and were still working 🤷♂️
be fair to Lambo- they’re not making cars for people who care about any of that. They’e making cars for people who are stupid and modestly rich.
actual rich people drive cars that serve their needs. a very comfortable, maybe sporty, car or SUV or cross over for daily driving, maybe a sports car for fun driving and a real supercar if they want to go to a track day. lambos are for the tacky slobs that wanna be like the Ferrari drivers.
It’s about the compensation theory. The bigger/louder the car/bike, the bigger the need to compensate for something small they have.
People needing to be heard when they drive with their car/bike are one of the most pathetic kind of drivers. You have to be a special kind of insecure baby to need others to look at you when you drive by.
It’s funny to see how it was always about acceleration and top speed until electric cars quietly zoomed past them. Suddenly it’s about the feels.
sports car lovers who ‘miss the noise’
These are the scumbags profiting off of why everything is so expensive.
I drive cars like these. I just code.
Lambos, Porsches, Ferrari’s all have most of their line up attractively priced for upper middle class people. Especially when you consider cost per mile vs the price tag.
My 911 GTS, with a price tag of 160k will have cost me maybe 7 or 8k to own for 3 year, mostly in insurance, assuming no huge price changes.
If you buy the right cars and can afford the payment, these cars are not incredibly expensive to own. You’re thinking of hypercars.
Idiots pay $160,000 for a car and call them not expensive. Don’t forget das devaluation.
Go look at the depreciation on many of these low volume cars.
https://robbreport.com/lifestyle/news/porsche-911s-lowest-depreciation-five-years-1236415831/
That’s a normal 911 off the lot. The special ones often go up in value.
You just admitted the fucking thing cost $160K. There is zero chance you’d ever convince me that’s not expensive. $30K is what most people would call expensive. Jesus Christ how’s it possible to be so out of touch?
Are you upper middle class? Then maybe that’s why you lack the ability to see how it’s affordable for the top 5% 🤷♂️
You skipped immediately into an emotional argument and skipped by the actual cost to own 🤷♂️.
This car here, ignoring resale value, costs less than my daycare, which I no longer have to pay 🤷♂️.
It doesn’t matter if it literally makes you money to own, when it costs that much and you cannot see it, it’s probably because you and your friends are rich and shallow. Now, how’s that for actually getting emotional?
I’m shallow for pointing out the ownership costs and liking cars? Yes, the cars with their resale values can sometimes even be free. That’s exactly my point. That’s how upper middle class people buy these. You have this weird fixation on attacking me for making a top 5% salary and explaining who actually owns these.
I write open source code for a living. I can afford an expensive MSRP car because of these economics. What exactly has triggered you into hating me me so much?
I don’t think anyone else remotely gives a shit how you explain the cost breakdown. The comments you made here come off extremely out of touch. That’s why you’re getting loads of downvotes on every single one.
Kill the messenger I guess 🤷♂️
My 911 GTS, with a price tag of 160k will have cost me maybe 7 or 8k to own for 3 year, mostly in insurance, assuming no huge price changes.
You’re missing a few costs, or it never leaves it’s parking space. Or you live so close to where you work you don’t even need a car.
Completely ignoring the :: checks my notes:: 100% torque at fucking zero rpm.
Lambos have always been a poser car. Even Porsche requires some kinda demonstration of expertise for access to their higher end models.
requires some kinda demonstration of expertise for access to their higher end models.
You say it like gate keeping is a good thing?
Manufacturers should sell products, not make their customers play games like begging for a little more gruel.
Pretty sure Lamborghini took one look at BYD’s three thousand horsepower supercar eating up the test track at 300 miles an hour and just quietly decided to pivot to “the feel”.
Pretty sure you know nothing about the brand nor its drivers.
How many of those BYDs will they sell, 6?
Lambo has always been about the feel. You wanna flex? Show me an '80’s Corolla! (This hate isn’t directed at you as much as the car community as a whole)
At least there’s a solid experience with an old gallardo/murcie/diablo. Until someone comes up with something miles ahead of ioniq 5 N levels of simulation every ev will feel the same.
Also hard disagree on the Porsche part, they make a shitload of trim levels then try to make every single one feel exclusive as shit. And there are tons of people who buy GT3/RS for appearance reasons and then complain they’re not comfortable, like buddy you’re doing it backwards.
With Lambos you get the same baseline, and then they add a bit more power or 4 wheel drive on top for higher end models. Aventador J is powered by the same thing as a launch day Aventador for example.hard disagree…
To each their own. All the love and respect to you homie.
Sorry to sound like a repeater but, hard disagree.
Please link some pro lambo/anti porsche articles. I promise I will read them and respond appropriately.
