• Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml
    489·
    2 years ago

    There is no Uyghur Genocide. Do you know how we know there isn’t? Because multiple muslim countries are working with the Chinese and haven’t said a word about it. People just post random pictures of prisoners or photos from decades ago and act like it’s ongoing.

    • cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml
      191·
      2 years ago

      Their real opposition to the Holocaust is that Hitler never completed it, not that it never should have happened in the first place.

        • cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml
          41·
          2 years ago

          I agree with your sentiment, and while I agree reality has many shades of grey, I find that generally speaking through history and violence, its fair to say one side is more or less on the progressive, altruistic, and wants to minimize suffering, aka the closest thing to “good guys” vs the obviously blatantly evil or regressive side.

  • ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
    351·
    2 years ago

    I have never seen a communist, even deranged ultras, even insinuate that the Cambodian Genocide never happened.

    Karyn also happened…. It was just the SS who used it for propaganda against the Soviets.

    The Homoldor also happened. But it wasn’t some targeted genocide, it was the devastating culmination of many different factors that exacerbated the horrific famine that swept Belarus, Ukraine, and Southwest Russia.

    • Anarcho-Bolshevik@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      332·
      2 years ago

      The term ‘Holodomor’ was coined with the intent of promoting the famine–genocide conspiracy theory. It’s more accurate to call it the (Soviet) famine of 1932–33.

      • ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        151·
        2 years ago

        I agree and I do know about the origins of the word, I was just saying that in the frame of the argument, that yes, the “Homoldor” happened as in a large amount of people died of famine in that time frame.

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
        142·
        2 years ago

        Nothing because polcomp is a nonsense

        But if i was to hit myself in head really hard to get into that mindset, oh fuck that hurt…

        concussion mode on

        Demsocs

        concussion mode off

      • StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml
        21·
        2 years ago

        Its a political position as described by the Political Compass website. The Political Compass is an attempt by to map polotocal ideologies onto 2 axis (economic, social) rather than 1 (left-right). The primary complaint (other than reducing politics to two axis is reductive) tends to be that it describes fascism as Authortian-Center (auth center). Their justification was that the economic controls levied by fascist governments is neither leftist nor liberal (free market) in nature, for example they described Hitler as (3,10). This test got picked up by the online alt-right discourse as a way to legitimize their views in places like r/PoliticalCompassMemes.

  • cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml
    356·
    2 years ago

    I got into a fight with some noeliberal dronie on Discord because when the douchebag accused me of denying the Uyghur genocide, I responded with “you can’t deny something that isn’t real in the first place” and he went apeshit and suspended my account from a Destiny 2 leaks Discord server.

    So much for freeze peach.

  • su25@lemmygrad.ml
    272·
    2 years ago

    take THAT tankie, a “genocide” with no credible evidence supporting it aside from actual propaganda (holodomor) is exactly like a genocide with a wealth of evidence supporting it because the people doing it kept records on it (holocaust)!

  • Pepe@lemmygrad.ml
    221·
    2 years ago

    I agree with most of the comment section saying the Holomodor could not count as a genocide as it was not somethong the USSR intended. But it definitely is something. Stalin let millions of people starve not only out of his incompetence but out of not wanting to admit it was even happening because it would give him a bad image