Pellets are a scam, man. Wood fuel for a standard wood stove is all around us. In the states, I can pull a forest permit for like $40 and go harvest enough firewood for the winter. It requires effort and sweat equity, but all good things require that.
Somehow, they created pellets (made from sawdust – the byproduct/waste of the mill industry) and sold this generation on the convenience, but now a necessity for life is a commodity and they can fuck with the cost as much as they want. Eg temps drop to single digits so price of pellets go up equals maximum profits. It’s the bottled water equivalent of wood heating.
Pellets helped my grand parents survive a winter when the power went out for an extended period of time. They were too old to just start hacking at the forest but they still had access to an offline source that was easy for them at an old age.
Everyone keeps pointing out exceptions to the rule. Obviously enfeebled elderly folks benefit from pellets if their children/grand children arent hacking down trees for them.
It’s like me saying “prepackaged single serving items are a scourge on the planet” and then someone clapping back about how they’re disabled and need single serving pre cut apples or pre-peeled bananas or some shit. Like, yeah, of course in that situation it makes sense.
You’re right. I have no idea about that. How would I?
Last time I bought a cord of wood, split, ready for the fire, and delivered, i think it was in the ballpark of $300 USD. But that was a long while ago in the pacific northwest.
Oh fuck, just to add… The pine boards I just bought from Home Depot said “product of Sweden” and it was the cheapest boards they had that were suitable for my project.
How come I’m paying a nickel a foot for your lumber but you’re paying an arm and a leg for your own raw timber? That’s some bullshit, man. The world is weird.
Yes, here too if you get creative. One season, I paid a local tree service company $100 bucks and they dumped their logs in my yard. They were 8 foot long sections, anywhere from 10-inch diameter to 3 feet diameter (Pacific Northwest). I bucked it all down with a 16" inch gas chainsaw and split it with a maul. Took forever. My hands and back ached at bedtime every night. But when I was done, i had three-plus cord stacked and drying all for $100 bucks.
Nothing beats the forest permits tho. A lot of work, but the price is worth it.
Get a good catalytic stove with heat circulation fans and combustion air inlets. They put out an astonishing amount of heat that actually heats your home and doesn’t suck cold air in or pull the heated air out with the exhaust. They’re not cheap, but they work great.
Pellets are a scam, man. Wood fuel for a standard wood stove is all around us. In the states, I can pull a forest permit for like $40 and go harvest enough firewood for the winter. It requires effort and sweat equity, but all good things require that.
Somehow, they created pellets (made from sawdust – the byproduct/waste of the mill industry) and sold this generation on the convenience, but now a necessity for life is a commodity and they can fuck with the cost as much as they want. Eg temps drop to single digits so price of pellets go up equals maximum profits. It’s the bottled water equivalent of wood heating.
Ditch the pellet stove for wood stoves.
Pellets helped my grand parents survive a winter when the power went out for an extended period of time. They were too old to just start hacking at the forest but they still had access to an offline source that was easy for them at an old age.
Everyone keeps pointing out exceptions to the rule. Obviously enfeebled elderly folks benefit from pellets if their children/grand children arent hacking down trees for them.
It’s like me saying “prepackaged single serving items are a scourge on the planet” and then someone clapping back about how they’re disabled and need single serving pre cut apples or pre-peeled bananas or some shit. Like, yeah, of course in that situation it makes sense.
No it’s like you are saying apparently everyone has children and grand children ready to start a logging op on the fly…
As if everyone has equal access to trees and equal physical ability to log them at the necessary scale.
Meanwhile in reality… your poor understanding of prepared foods doesn’t scale to folks actually heating themselves in real life…
Manufactured wood bits aren’t the way but they have a place in a world where your bs doesn’t create a silver bullet either.
You have no idea how expensive firewood is in Europe.
You’re right. I have no idea about that. How would I?
Last time I bought a cord of wood, split, ready for the fire, and delivered, i think it was in the ballpark of $300 USD. But that was a long while ago in the pacific northwest.
How much wood is that? *Nvm i found it, it’s 3,62 cubic meters. I thought it wasn’t a unit of measurement.
1,5 cubic meters of birch, ready for the fire cost between 180-250$ right now in sweden.
I would assume that we have an insanely low price compared to the rest of Europe. We practically consist of wood and lakes.
You could also buy what we call “long wood” for less than half and chop it yourself.
Oh fuck, just to add… The pine boards I just bought from Home Depot said “product of Sweden” and it was the cheapest boards they had that were suitable for my project.
How come I’m paying a nickel a foot for your lumber but you’re paying an arm and a leg for your own raw timber? That’s some bullshit, man. The world is weird.
Yes, here too if you get creative. One season, I paid a local tree service company $100 bucks and they dumped their logs in my yard. They were 8 foot long sections, anywhere from 10-inch diameter to 3 feet diameter (Pacific Northwest). I bucked it all down with a 16" inch gas chainsaw and split it with a maul. Took forever. My hands and back ached at bedtime every night. But when I was done, i had three-plus cord stacked and drying all for $100 bucks.
Nothing beats the forest permits tho. A lot of work, but the price is worth it.
Lucky you. There are regions where forests are more protected. And where pellets are cheaper than wood.
That’s exactly the idea – to prevent sawdust from going to waste.
Get a good catalytic stove with heat circulation fans and combustion air inlets. They put out an astonishing amount of heat that actually heats your home and doesn’t suck cold air in or pull the heated air out with the exhaust. They’re not cheap, but they work great.
Thanks Ron Swanson