They are willing to censor almost anything that goes past “I’m willing to call it a genocide”, that is anything that can be done to emancipate palestinians. I do not think you’re gonna be able to post about arming palestinians for instance. The moderation has an objectively zionist bias, which they readily admit, saying that the laws of their instance’s host country force them to. However they also allow open zionists as long as they don’t openly call for genocide (which no interpretation of the law forces them to).

I don’t think engaging with them on their turf is going to lead to a lot of radicalisation of germans as you will have to keep tip-toeing around what is deemed acceptable speech and what isn’t. They’re also fairly loose with the banhammer should someone step a toe outside of the norms of “civil debate”. So you’d have to have to argue about e.g. the cruelty that Hind Rajab was subjected to calmly or you’re banned. Which I would argue is even worse as it reduces the lives of the people that are subject to these horrors to a debatable talking point. You gotta understand that for almost any german “palestinian” is an abstract term. This is

Let us look at a specific example. A claim like “There’s cultural genocide of Uyghurs in Xinjiang” is simply unreal to most Westerners, close to pure gibberish. The words really refer to existing entities and geographies, but Westerners aren’t familiar with them. The actual content of the utterance as it spills out is no more complex or nuanced than “China Bad,” and the elementary mistakes people make when they write out statements of “solidarity” make that much clear. This is not a complaint that these people have not studied China enough — there’s no reason to expect them to study China, and retrospectively I think to some extent it was a mistake to personally have spent so much time trying to teach them. It’s instead an acknowledgment that they are eagerly wielding the accusation like a club, that they are in reality unconcerned with its truth-content, because it serves a social purpose.

- from https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/

all over again. Just replace “uyghur” with “palestinian” and “xinjiang” with “israel”. And what “china bad” translates to in this case is “israel bad”. This is where their “antizionism” ends. Because past that the zionist propaganda kicks in, and the zionist propaganda in Germany is heavy. edit: expanding on this, they see “israel bad” like a club and are looking at who to strike. Seeing that a lot of zionists are jewish they will then turn on the antizionists to “protect” these Jews. And thus they will tone done from “israel bad” to “what israel is doing is bad” and look for reformist approaches. Two-statesism, sanctioning the entity etc. And thus the focus is completely moved away from the indigenous and on to settlers. How to counter this, how to keep palestinians in focus, humanize them and their struggle, I don’t know. Anti-arab racism is very high and subconcious among the liberals. It’s even higher among the conservatives but more concious, they are not that relevant to the ongoing discussion. Although you will see some right wing tropes get adopted by the so-called left-wing like “imported antisemitism” or “headscarves need to be banned from schools”.

I’m gonna not gonna argue for complete defederation, because as someone who has to live in Germany I’ve gotten very very doomer about getting germans to stand against “jewish supremacy”. I mean I am a german so I guess it’s technically possible, but I grew up in Turkey so to me muslims are not an abstract concept, who knows what my biases are. Certainly not me. But I’d advise for the blocking of the communities proposed. The fedditors can still be argued with if they post on neutral ground, but arguing with them on hostile ground is imo not just a complete waste of time, but getting banned from there will make all your comments after that invisible to them. For instance no fedditor will read this comment because I am banned from the instance.