Laws to be introduced this week include up to two years in prison for distributing, displaying or reciting prohibited phrases to harass or offend

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    2 days ago

    Do you realize that the majority of people agree that the palestinian autority will be who rule palestine for a white, PA recognize israel and abandonned armed resistance . You just hide behind hamas war crimes to justify occupation

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      The Palestinian Authority who have no de facto power and whom Hamas despised almost as much as they despise Israel?

      You think what Hamas means when they say “From the river to the sea” is that the Palestinian Authority will run a civil government with universal respect for human rights?

      I’m not “hiding behind hamas war crimes,” you’re writing off hamas war crimes and trying to hide them behind a veneer of the Palestinian Authority’s nominal claim to power.

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        Hamas has no defacto power outside of Gaza. Pa had no power because of israel and the west support for israel.

        Here what should happen. The west and the usa should stop siding with israel. Israel should have cuba style sanctions to force them to end the occupation of the west bank , hamas should be asked to surrender in exchange of ending the blockade. If hamas refuse , the west should provide the PA all it needs to to destroy Hamas.

        Of course it is not easy but it is logical

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          Hamas has no defacto power outside of Gaza

          Their de facto power in Gaza is nearly absolute (at least in the parts they still hold). The slogan in question in this post is about extending their hold to the rest of the land. It implies genociding Israelis.

          hamas should be asked to surrender

          No fucking shit. And when they refuse?

          the west should provide the PA all it needs to to destroy Hamas

          If it were that simple, they would have already been rooted out.

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            Their de facto power in Gaza is nearly absolute You just repeated what I said

            The slogan in question in this post is about extending their hold to the rest of the land. It implies genociding Israelis.

            Like explained in y other comment it is not

            No fucking shit. And when they refuse? I already replied this in my other comment. They would be forced to surrender with PA backed western countries

            If it were that simple, they would have already been rooted out.

            I never said it is simple but when things are hard you makes more effort and not like you saying there is nothing we can do.

            It may already rooted out if the political will was there but no all the western countries and in fact ever China and Russia that pretend to care about Palestinians are supporting effectively Israel while pretending not not .

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              The fact that you think forcing hamas to surrender is as simple as simply having the UN vote on it and the West getting involved would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad.

              Even if they did all that, people would raise a fuss about foreign intervention and western-backed influence. Hamas would still be hiding beneath hospitals and schools, using human shields, and there would still be brutal fighting in an attempt to root them out.

              Israel’s response has been completely disproportionate and counter to international law and human rights, but just because you suddenly support someone else with the stated purpose of eliminating hamas doesn’t immediately neutralize the complex realities of modern warfare.

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                The fact that you think forcing hamas to surrender is as simple as simply having the UN vote on it and the West getting involved would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad.

                I said a million time that it is not simple. Was is so laughtable and sad is that you pretend you want a solution but still we should simply keep selling weapons to israel and have good economical and diplomatical relation with them