Laws to be introduced this week include up to two years in prison for distributing, displaying or reciting prohibited phrases to harass or offend
Laws to be introduced this week include up to two years in prison for distributing, displaying or reciting prohibited phrases to harass or offend
Do you mind telling the audience what your plan entails for all the Israeli civilians living in Israel, many of whom don’t approve of their government or its actions?
Israel has fair elections they chose genocidal prime ministers for 78 years
Israel
doesdid not have fair elections. The ultra-orthodox political elite were extremely privileged in Israel’s elections. Something like 15% of the population was responsible for an 80% share-by-weight of the electoral outcome.This has recently changed, so it’s expected that Israel’s next election (this year) will be more fair, and it’s likely that the ultra-orthodox faction will lose power. However, they know this quite well and are likely to try to use the war in some way to maintain their hold on power. Time will tell.
If it is not rigged it is fair. Nice deflection from the fact that israelis keep voting for genocidal and pro colonization prime ministers. And since there is a lot of bad actors in lemmy I have to say the obvious, this do not justify killing innocents israeli civilians
It is rigged though. You’re the one deflecting.
That’s literally what “From the river to the sea means.” If you would just say that, we would be in agreement. But no, you deflect and accuse me of being a zionist because I say “ethnic cleansing is wrong no matter what side is doing it, and simply changing the hands of power between two genocidal organizations is not a viable solution.”
Only if the likud are the ones saying it.
We antizionists mean “from the river to the sea” as a call to liberate the entire country of Palestine, including at the bare minimum the right to return. The settlers can go back to where they came from or integrate. It’s not a call to kill every man, woman or child in the illegaly occupied areas that’s hasbara.
It is like saying that usa elections are rigged and not fair because lobbies and oligargh. Anyway Netenyahu is not an ultraorthodox and israel voted for that genocidal monster, israeli president is not either and said there is no innocent Gazans yet your trashy racist country still host him and you prefer to portray anti occupstion protesters as antisemite and pro genoice instead of condemning that visit
I’m not even Australian, so I don’t know why you’re blaming me for what their government is doing. All I did was provide context for the slogan in question on the OP article. That doesn’t mean I support Israel.
This inane campism where “any criticism of one side implies support for the other” is so worn-out. Do better.
So stop defending Australians hypocrisy about Palestine and condemn the country bringing a war criminals to the country. All you did was to provide propaganda talking points .
I have problem with your lies and hypocristy
Not even a little bit. All I did was provide historical context for the meaning of the slogan. It’s entirely possible to criticize Israel’s actions and western/anglophone governments’ support without perpetuating phrases that connote ethnic cleansing.
If you can’t take this seriously, then neither will I…
They would become citizens of the state formed after the dissolution of Israel with the same, full rights and protections, as Palestinians. There would no doubt need to be a whole denazification campaign that might take many years, as well as a very comprehensive period of truth and reconciliation.
So you’re in favor of a one-state solution?
Who do you think will govern that state?
Israelis and palestinians
Two-state solution is better. Otherwise you’ll always have a dominant majority marginalizing the other, or at best you would have a political stalemate incapable of getting anything done.
The two state solution is definitely not better. It would mean both side ethenic cleansing because of the whole world allowed isrsel to build colonies all over the west bank. Thinking that israeli and palestinians can never live together is racist and antisemitic
It’s not racist and anti-semitic, it’s called being in touch with reality. Even western democracies are having issues with either stalemates causing ineffective governance, or a resurgence in populist extremism causing political instability.
You can’t just merge two vastly different societies with a history of open conflict under one political system and expect it to magically become some egalitarian multicultural utopia. History has shown countless times that it doesn’t work. Almost always, at least one group is marginalized and disenfranchised.
Believing that two semetic populations can never be in peace is antisemetic and racist. Since you believe in that it makes zero difference if the solution is a one state or two state because even with a two state solution. Both side could still attack
All your bullshit was excuses used by pro apparteith in Sourh africa.
I didn’t say they can “never” coexist in peace, I said the solution is more complex than simply throwing them into the same pot and saying “there, have democracy.”
If you’re just going continue to lean on strawman characterizations of what I’m saying, then we’re done here.
I’m just simply stating the simple facts that Israel must be dissolved and everyone who had a hand in the genocide must face justice. The actual process of determining the governance etc. should be determined by those who are going to actually live there.