I can’t, not on this machine - not yet at least. I’m disabled and use a logi g903 that has side buttons on either side that I use to play fps games (I’m left handed only, so finding an ambidextrous gaming mouse with enough side buttons, that I can remap buttons per-application is like 3 options, before adding 🐧 compatability to the list); and I have two sound blaster cards - one for system and game, one for voice chat - that, with either of them in 5.1 mode, the rear, center, and sub channels are incorrect. No fix worked for me :(
So here I sit, broken hearted, tried to shit but only farted switch but only [got] frustrated 😞
Basically, you can’t do 5.1 surround sound (3x 3.5mm) and stereo (headset) + microphone (2x 3.5mm) on the same card. I’ve been using sound cards since like, 2005? And I hate on-board audio chips. I don’t particularly trust the quality (both sound and physical build quality, longevity) of USB-based audio/headsets. Thus I disable the on-board mobo chip and run the two add-on cards.
I’m like an audiophile but on a shoestring budget, so I work with what I have :p
I have an old SoundBlaster Z whatever it’s called. I’m pretty sure that worked on Linux last time I tried. There’s also programs like Input Remapper to remap mouse buttons which I have successfully used before. I am certain you could get a similar setup on Linux, but it would require more work to get it up and running. Maybe some script to configure the soundcards and such.
The Z works, but again only in stereo mode. Which is fine, the Z is for voice chat, the AE-5 is for 5.1… but both have the exact same issue, 5.1 garbled the channels.
I’ve looked at input override tools… But I’d need it to be automatic and per-application, and if the g903 acts how it works on windows, the official software can differentiate between left side buttons and right side buttons, whereas the OS cannot. I didn’t find anything that met the auto + per-app requirement the last time I looked, so it’s back to the ‘eventually’ pile.
I only have a basic stereo setup, so I don’t know how bad it might be, but depending on how long ago that was, it could be a pulseaudio issue that was fixed by pipewire. I also know that if the issue is with the channels being hooked up incorrectly, that you can change how they’re connected in pipewire (in the worst case, using a virtual device that takes in the correct layout and adapts to the incorrect one to output to the sound card)
But I also understand that it might be a lot of tinkering to make it work, so no judgement here, hopefully the software situation improves.
I retested about six weeks ago, but the issue is discussed on forums and reddit as far back as 8 years ago (maybe further back but that’s the earliest I saw). I just assume that nobody has a sb card + using it as a 5.1/7.1 system + is also a programmer capable of solving it.
I went so far as to shop for sound cards by other manufacturers specifically for Linux support, but according to others Asus is no better vs Creative regarding Linux support, and in a general search for sound cards with Linux support, the only other stuff I found is for like audio creation and is eye-watering expensive. Others here on lemmy suggested an external card, which I could try, but I don’t have the cash for and I’d like to keep my existing hardware, so that’s a kinda extreme solution.
I tried to fix the channels by overriding it by creating setting files (way out of my element about how it works, but people suggested it) which also didn’t work. I did not try/see anything regarding a middle virtual adapter, I’ll have to keep that in mind the next time I test again, as the windows ESU deadline approaches.
Thanks for the reply! Thats indeed interesting, and yeah the built in stuff is… not great. The dac itself might be alright but then so much ends up garbage anyway.
I have a g600 and run Linux, hah, but I had set the mouse to onboard memory and then just… can’t change it now. I was looking at how to do that because windows is dead to me for sure.
The sound card stuff is certainly a blast from the past. Haven’t thought about sound blaster in many years!
Linux is ready and great for most people I think, but yeah to your point, the stranger the setup, the more difficult a time you are set for!
I can’t, not on this machine - not yet at least. I’m disabled and use a logi g903 that has side buttons on either side that I use to play fps games (I’m left handed only, so finding an ambidextrous gaming mouse with enough side buttons, that I can remap buttons per-application is like 3 options, before adding 🐧 compatability to the list); and I have two sound blaster cards - one for system and game, one for voice chat - that, with either of them in 5.1 mode, the rear, center, and sub channels are incorrect. No fix worked for me :(
So here I sit, broken hearted, tried to
shit but only fartedswitch but only [got] frustrated 😞I’m curious about the sound cards? What benefit does such a setup have?
Basically, you can’t do 5.1 surround sound (3x 3.5mm) and stereo (headset) + microphone (2x 3.5mm) on the same card. I’ve been using sound cards since like, 2005? And I hate on-board audio chips. I don’t particularly trust the quality (both sound and physical build quality, longevity) of USB-based audio/headsets. Thus I disable the on-board mobo chip and run the two add-on cards.
I’m like an audiophile but on a shoestring budget, so I work with what I have :p
It’s the SB AE-5 and SB Z, I’d you’re curious.
I have an old SoundBlaster Z whatever it’s called. I’m pretty sure that worked on Linux last time I tried. There’s also programs like Input Remapper to remap mouse buttons which I have successfully used before. I am certain you could get a similar setup on Linux, but it would require more work to get it up and running. Maybe some script to configure the soundcards and such.
The Z works, but again only in stereo mode. Which is fine, the Z is for voice chat, the AE-5 is for 5.1… but both have the exact same issue, 5.1 garbled the channels.
I’ve looked at input override tools… But I’d need it to be automatic and per-application, and if the g903 acts how it works on windows, the official software can differentiate between left side buttons and right side buttons, whereas the OS cannot. I didn’t find anything that met the auto + per-app requirement the last time I looked, so it’s back to the ‘eventually’ pile.
I only have a basic stereo setup, so I don’t know how bad it might be, but depending on how long ago that was, it could be a pulseaudio issue that was fixed by pipewire. I also know that if the issue is with the channels being hooked up incorrectly, that you can change how they’re connected in pipewire (in the worst case, using a virtual device that takes in the correct layout and adapts to the incorrect one to output to the sound card)
But I also understand that it might be a lot of tinkering to make it work, so no judgement here, hopefully the software situation improves.
I retested about six weeks ago, but the issue is discussed on forums and reddit as far back as 8 years ago (maybe further back but that’s the earliest I saw). I just assume that nobody has a sb card + using it as a 5.1/7.1 system + is also a programmer capable of solving it.
I went so far as to shop for sound cards by other manufacturers specifically for Linux support, but according to others Asus is no better vs Creative regarding Linux support, and in a general search for sound cards with Linux support, the only other stuff I found is for like audio creation and is eye-watering expensive. Others here on lemmy suggested an external card, which I could try, but I don’t have the cash for and I’d like to keep my existing hardware, so that’s a kinda extreme solution.
I tried to fix the channels by overriding it by creating setting files (way out of my element about how it works, but people suggested it) which also didn’t work. I did not try/see anything regarding a middle virtual adapter, I’ll have to keep that in mind the next time I test again, as the windows ESU deadline approaches.
Thanks for the reply! Thats indeed interesting, and yeah the built in stuff is… not great. The dac itself might be alright but then so much ends up garbage anyway.
I have a g600 and run Linux, hah, but I had set the mouse to onboard memory and then just… can’t change it now. I was looking at how to do that because windows is dead to me for sure.
The sound card stuff is certainly a blast from the past. Haven’t thought about sound blaster in many years!
Linux is ready and great for most people I think, but yeah to your point, the stranger the setup, the more difficult a time you are set for!