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Posadas [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

The most pro-union liberal

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The most pro-union liberal

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Posadas [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago
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https://nitter.net/comaccomacco/status/1708407389576200391

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    marx-guns-blazing WE’RE NOT LUDDITES!!!

    marx-doomer The enormous destruction of machinery that occurred in the English manufacturing districts during the first 15 years of this century, chiefly caused by the employment of the power-loom, and known as the Luddite movement, gave the anti-Jacobin governments of a Sidmouth, a Castlereagh, and the like, a pretext for the most reactionary and forcible measures. It took both time and experience before the workpeople learnt to distinguish between machinery and its employment by capital, and to direct their attacks, not against the material instruments of production, but against the mode in which they are used.

    TL;DR We shouldn’t destroy the machines, we should seize them from the ruling class.

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        which is smart and good and not ludditism. honestly I’m not even sure ludditism would be possible for them, unless they suddenly started blowing up random AWS server closets until they got the ones that happen to be generating screenplays

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          sicko-wistful

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      Sure, but our respect for Luddites is for who they are in their context. In the same way that the Jacobins are not how we should be, but they developed much of our theories for us and experimented in ways that gave us a better understanding

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        Yeah that’s fair.

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      animarx: “I’m not a primmie.”

      a-guy: “I am not a leftist!”

      so-true: “You both are literally the same because you care about stuff and it makes me uncomfortable to see someone give a shit about anything besides consooo-I mean, the economy.”

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        I was not accusing the writer’s strike of doing otherwise. My comment was in response to the tweet in the screenshot which claimed socialists are luddites. The writer’s strike was not luddite. Socialists are not luddites.

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            rosa-salute

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        yes, and I would further add that some amount of destruction of means of production is inevitable in the process of waging class war, but it should not be the primary aim of class war

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