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Right wing architcture:
those are FUCKING SPIKES to keep people away, the fact that they don’t use daggers instead is strangeHOMELESS PEOPLE ARE NOT PIGEONS
Actually, they are. As far as the average conservative cares, both of them are dirty pests that should be driven away.
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF *coo coo*
Well, not usually.
I have met a homeless furry who was kind of a pigeon.
They’re still shitting all over the park I wish my toddler could more freely play at.
You could also petition the city for public toilets to be available for homeless people. I mean, every construction site/ public festival I see those aqua blue porta potties. I bet they would rather shit in one of them since no public facility/business will let them in to do that. Everyone poops. Even dogs, pigeons, rabbists, racoons and deer.
You’re not wrong but people gotta defecate and frequently have no where to do it. If we cared for our people, with housing in this case, it would benefit literally everyone else too.
The difference is if you build public bathrooms, the pigeons won’t use them. If humans are shitting outside to a degree it becomes a problem, the problem isn’t the people doing the shitting.
Now, if we could get pigeons to use a bathroom, or even a shitting mat, that would be an achievement.
The last one is an actual safety hazard. Imagine someone slipping and falling (think icy sidewalks) and taking one of those to the face.
They keep the homeless at bay, but wait until the Ayurveda Yoga crowd discovers them. They’ll be worse than a pidgeon infestation.
If someone walking by, falls over that, that’s a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Sorry you got downvoted because that might actually be a good catalyst for undermining hostile architecture.
Talk about taking one for the team though
only commies walk.
And “commies” don’t get to sue?
i think the things on the green bench might be anti-handholding or anti-cuddling things instead. you know, to aid against the display of lewd activity in public (/s)
Instructions unclear: one person sits on other’s lap
And now body parts have somehow become stuck withing each others!
i believe this is called “task failed successfully”
Or one of those homeless camps that are everywhere now.
Oh they sweep those at least weekly.
As someone who’s grown up in one of those and now rearing a child in Canada, I’d like to tell you that it was an absolutely incredible place to grow up in. The urban planning is such that there’s parks with kid playgrounds sprinkled between the buildings. There’s ample trees. There’s schools and kindergartens at walking distance where kids would often walk alone to/fro. There’s convenient public transit stops. There’s density that lets kids make tons of friends and always have someone to play with without “playdates.” Parenting in such a social environment is so much easier than what parents face in Toronto, it’s not even funny.
E: Oh and the square footage in the average commie block apt is equivalent to a large old-school 2 or 3-bedroom apartment in Toronto. Most are family-sized units.
square footage? what kind of weird camera are you using?
That’s my Canada goose brain talking. 😆🪿 It’s literally the common term used to refer to the total area of a housing unit. Here for example a major real estate firm explains the importance of square footage measurement.
For extra entertainment, this is a handy flowchart of Canadian units of measurement:
There’s density that lets kids make tons of friends and always have someone to play with without “playdates.”
man, that’s what i missed as a kid sooo much. i would have needed this.
In Germany?
in austria, but it was some conservative rural backwater nowhere
Ah. That makes sense. Let me make you feel better. In some provinces in Canada (or all?) children can’t be left alone, without adult supervision until the age of 12. It’s illegal and parents get in trouble for it. Even leaving your kid to play in your backyard in the suburb while you’re in the shower can become a problem if your bored neighbour calls the authorities. Imagine growing up with that kind of lack of autonomy. Even if there are kids around and even if there’s public transit. I still heven’t figured out how to workaround that for my kid but I suspect I’m gonna be breaking the law. 😂
It is very generational. Sorry to be part of the helicopter parent generation. However, as an early GenX I was a free-range parent and the local neighbor parents did NOT APPROVE. I had to search for people that had my same heart. It was wonderful to find an adult willing to let me drop our boys off at the movies and then she would pick them up at the end. They figured out how to purchase snacks, find their seats and how to get out the right entrance.
man, that sucks. i wish you good luck :D
Ah yes so depressing and ugly that they’re featured in an architectural magazine. https://www.azuremagazine.com/article/vienna-social-housing/
vienna social housing is beautiful (a lot of the times at least). source: i live there
Right wing Architecture
More like
Very odd to call things like that right-wing given they are most notable for being built in cities. Places well-known for being lefty.
Not really. Who do you think is more likely to sign off on this kind of thing? Certainly not a leftie.
From the top of the comment thread: “Right wing Architecture”
Again, these are most well known in cities, places that aren’t known for being controlled by the right…
right wing architecture: jail
The tarpe movement was very influencial from the 80s.
Yeah my parents did crack in these blue tents, so nostalgic
Ultra luxury apartments are usually vacant most of the time, because the owners live elsewhere and only use that property for money laundering.
not money laundering, gambling. secure a loan with the property as collateral, put that $ into the stock market.
Just expropriate the building and turn them into communal living spaces; e.g. the USSR did that after the revolution with all the fancy aristocratic- and capitalist-owned buildings
Yes, there is something even more depressing than late soviet (or late Francoist, if you want a right wing equivalent) residential monsters: just look at any first world homeless camp.
also, if you live in the states, go look at some car oriented developments. they are just as brutalist, just as same-y, just as sad
Yup. And look at the warehouses all these cars are going from these bullshit suburbs to get to. If you find joy in the architecture of a Home Depot you are a profoundly odd person
Top image looks like one of the movie posters for Vivarium
And the bottom looks like a clip from the title sequence of Terminator 2.
I mean, those are basically just large apartments at that point, all cookie cutter. But at least the house is decent size and has a yard and you own it.
With an apartment you have no yard, probably no garage, cant make any changes to it, and you hear all your neighbors, and smell them if they smoke, and you dont own shit. Apartments actually benefit the wealthy class, which is why I find it funny lemmings love them so much.
I guarantee 99% of people would want a house on 2 acres thats a 30 minute drive to town than an apartment.
2 acres 30 minute from town is just not a realistic expectation, unless by town you mean a small rural town. even most suburbs are at least 1 hour drive away from downtowns.
apartments are a real solution to a lot of environmental and financial problems, and offer a higher quality of life for particular areas (mostly access to culture and socializing). it is ok not to value those things and prefering a more rural place, but then you should expect to be giving away a lot of the benefits of living in a city. the (orders of magnitue) higher cost of land in cities over rural areas should tell you that a lot of people actually want to live there, and while access to job opportunities is one of the factors, a lot of it is the cultural benefits of cities.
and regarding aparments benefiting the wealthy class, i have no idea where you are coming from. obviously there is a big cost of living crisis, and city living is not expect from that, but car dependance benefits the wealthy class much more than walkable apartment life, which is why the US has been pushing for suburbs and car dependance for the last 80 years.
With an apartment […] you dont own shit.
What if you buy it? You can buy apartments, you know.
I guarantee 99% of people would want a house on 2 acres thats a 30 minute drive to town than an apartment.
I think that owning a house is also a lot of work, because you’re responsible for everything yourself, including construction and maintenance, and i don’t like that. There’s a proverb: You build the first house for your enemy, the second house for your friend, and the third one for yourself. It says that when you’re young and inexperienced, you don’t know what to look out for when you build a house. So you might build rooms without proper ventilation, and that makes mold grow. You might build the garage in the wrong dimensions, because you don’t know better. You might mess up the room layout or their sizes. When you buy an apartment built by the city, you can have a reasonable expectation that they’ve built 10000 apartment units before and know what they’re doing. With private construction companies, i’m reasonably worried about being ripped off or fucked with. I trust public housing much more than private construction companies.
On top of that if i live in the city, i don’t even need a garage, nor a car. It’s all very efficient and compact.
I guarantee 99% of people would want a house on 2 acres thats a 30 minute drive to town than an apartment.
This is an insane take.
Many people like density.
With an apartment you have no yard, probably no garage, cant make any changes to it, and you hear all your neighbors, and smell them if they smoke, and you dont own shit.
Many apartments have yards.
If you own that apartment, you can make changes to it. Maybe not some drastic changes, but I imagine the real limited there is money rather than architectural.
Many apartments are sound proof. I almost never hear my neighbors.
I don’t know if my neighbors smoked. I’ve never smelled anything.
Apartments actually benefit the wealthy class, which is why I find it funny lemmings love them so much.
You seem to be confusing renting with apartments
I mean, it’s the left-wingers who want to increase the level of education for everybody, and that’s one of the things that is shown to slow population growth. It’s the insane population pressures that result in the need for building stuff like that.
Also these are not painted, where I live we have their walls painted in colours with sometimes shapes and some have big art on them. Also there are usually small parks or grass plots with trees around and playgrounds.
In the USSR, they also often had murals or mosaics and alike; public art for everyone to enjoy and to encourage them with e.g. messages of equality
commercial ads in public spaces should be banned. they are an eye-sore. source: personal experience
Imagine what “left wing architecture” looks like after we end manufactured scarcity…
Vast forest arcology-scapes.
Enough to increase the carrying capacity of earth past 300 trillion humans, with vast space enough to live in lush nature…
But no, we have to keep the polluting rents extraction to keep the little people down, to keep the billionaires on top, even if it means even the billionaires have vastly less than they could in egalitarian emancipatarian abundance. At least they have more than others. That’s the most important measure. /s :-/
And pay no attention to the imminence of the bubble popping. ;D
Crazy how detached from reality, compassion, and morality, some are, that they pleep about aesthetics, preferring to keep millions destitute and homeless, to maintain their profiteering gamble.
Enough to increase the carrying capacity of earth past 300 trillion humans, with vast space enough to live in lush nature…
I want what you’re smoking
But where would all the cars go? /s
“Roads? Where we’re going… we don’t need… … “roads”.” – Doc Emmett Brown, Back To The Future trilogy.
Honestly, commieblocks arent that bad. Most of the pictures of them are cherry picked to be the unmaintained, dirty ones, and are exclusively taken in gloomy weather. The houses on the inside are usually good quality as well (though likely not well maintained anymore).
Hell, if you just painted them colourfully, they’d look nice.
Most of the pictures of them are cherry picked to be the unmaintained, dirty ones, and are exclusively taken in gloomy weather.
Look at the trees. They don’t have leaves. The image was definitely taken in winter. That adds a lot to the depression of it.
Didn’t anyone think to scatter a few evergreens around?
E.g. a few pine and yew trees would be nice.
As someone in a city with tons and tons of commieblocks - the apartments are usually fine, but no, these areas almost always look like shit and are depressing to be around, regardless of the weather.
And this is not one random guy’s opinion, no one I know likes these parts of the city and is excited to live there.
I’ve lived my whole life in and around commie blocks and I do not share your sentiment. My blocks are colorful with massive murals painted on their sides making each unique. The green spaces in between also help a lot, there are nice playgrounds for the kids, outdoor gyms etc. All the commodities I need are very close to my living space. I have not seen a single space in my city that looks like one in the picture even though we do have a lot of commie blocks standing around. Although I must say that the city isn’t taking enough care of our buildings. While mine and most others around are holding up fine there’s one that looks like it has rotted over the years. It is really starting to ruin the atmosphere but it’s just an odd one out and I hope proper steps will be taken in the future to restore it back to it’s shape.
Yeah, in Czechia most of the are painted (perhaps not as well as in the original picture)
Critiquing the visual appearance of architecture sounds like some Woke Leftist Liberal Arts shit to me.
My parents raised me in a hole under a tree stump and it built my character. Now I’m the assistant manager at three different car dealerships. You lefties with your indoor plumbing and central air will never have this much success
I mean, after we build them we can also let people do gorgeous art on them
You also like… don’t have to use brutalist architecture. You can build them in any shape you want so long as the building won’t fall down.
The plattenbau buildings tend to be simpler due to the standardized, factory-made concrete panels they’re built from. That said they can be built extraordibarily quickly. These days, modern building methods and the availability of building equipment like concrete pump trucks allows for similar speeds. In the 50s, coming out of the war, the speed of construction of prefab panel buildings was revolutionary. It’s how large populations in the Eastern Bloc went from living in precarious conditions to having a 20th century standard of housing amenities.
Exactly, brustalism is used usually during poor times
I find it interesting that it’s considered a design choice and style so much when it’s kind of about necessity and just using what works.
But then it does become a sort of mode or aesthetic in art and culture for what it represents.
