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        That’s a derogatory term for white people, yes, who cannot experience racism as white people are not systemically oppressed.

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          Ah yes the old “racism can only be systemic” fallacy. That’s systemic racism, this is an example of interpersonal racism which doesn’t have to be systemic to be racism. I know you probably don’t care about how it can affect white people, but ignoring the existence of interpersonal racism or acting like it can only go one way hurts marginalized groups too, so don’t be doing that k.

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              2 years ago

              Life is a journey, time is a river, the door is a jar. Words can have more than one meaning.

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                But “racism” can’t mean, “a thing experienced by white people as a result of being white”.

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                  I really want to ask you a couple of things:

                  1. What is your definition of racism?
                  2. You seem to exclude prejudice from it; why?
                  3. What informed your definition? (if you have some reading materials to recommend, do send them my way!)
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                  Yes it can, because that’s a form of interpersonal racism, which is prejudice towards someone because of their perceived race/skin colour. It’s not systemic racism when it happens to white people, sure, but it’s still racism. Systemic racism isn’t the only kind of racism.

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            White people can’t experience racism. White people are the beneficiaries of racism.
            Telling a beneficiary of global white supremacy his podcast sucks is not racism.

            Not taking a stance on if his podcast sucks as I have never heard of him. Discaring for the dude’s takes and insulting him for it still isn’t racism. He is white.

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              I’m not sure which comment you’re responding to as it does not appear to be an answer to the question posed, which was: What would you call discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity, in a word?

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                  I suspect the answer is a bit more simple - they’ve a comment history of concern trolling rife with, shall we say alternate facts - I suspect they’re just trying to bait out uncivil replies for a report and ban.

                  I suppose it’s possible they’re actually so deep into that koolaid as to be approaching flat earth levels of theories but I try to not assume people are that far gone.

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            The only people I see talked about in the screencaped content are white people.

            Try as I may I can’t find any of the racism you’re talking about.

            Is there are a second person hiding behind one of the white guys who is being subjected to racism that I’m not seeing?

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                Because the supposed victims are white.
                White people cannot experience racism.

                Racism requires systemic power and white people are not systemically oppressed.

                Why are you comparing an Afrikaaner being told to “shut the fuck up” to the historic and contemporary horrors unleashed by global white supremacy?

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                  Anyone can be a victim of racism.

                  What you’re thinking of is systematic racism. But in this case, it still doesn’t apply because the system of China is homogeneously han, not caucasian.

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                    Anti-Blackness, the founding and perpetuating force of white supremacy has global force. There is nowhere on this planet white people are oppressed for being white and as the creators and beneficiaries of racism they cannot be victims of it.

                    For you to cheapen and dilute the concept of racist oppression by using the term to describe what’s going on in the picture—a guy from a settler colony being told his podcast sucks—you have to realize how bad a look that is.

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                  Racism doesn’t require it to be systematic. The moment you dismiss someone based on their race and/or ethnicity it becomes racism. By definition.

                  Anyone can be racist. Anyone can experience racism. Just because it affects some more than others, doesn’t make it less racist.

                  The ethnicity of Europeans isn’t as easy as just. White, black and brown. You have white people being racist against other white people. Because they belong to a different white ethnicity than someone else. Racism isn’t limited.

                  Racism isn’t a fucking competition. Racism is racism.