• TomasEkeli@programming.dev
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    1 day ago

    em dashes are typographical faffery and have always been (in my opinion) a marker of writers who take themselves, and the surface level of their style, far too serious.

    just use commas, my friend

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          6 hours ago

          For a speaker/listener, yes. But for a reader, it has additional value.
          I don’t remember where I first read em dashes, but there were times when I felt like something didn’t quite match any of the others I usually use [1] and ended up with a feeling that putting a dash over there made sense.
          I also didn’t know the terminologies for these different kinds of dashes, when I started using them.


          1. parentheses, colons (inline or list-starters), semicolons ↩︎

        • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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          14 hours ago

          no.

          • comma: do a short pause
          • hyphen: connect two related concept words to loosely create a new word
          • en dash: signify a range
          • em dash: do an abrupt, possibly long, pause or signify an attribution
          • ellipses: do a trailing, possibly long, pause
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      1 day ago

      Just use commas, my friend

      vs.

      Just use commas – my friend

      It doesn’t work very well.

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        1 day ago

        dashes cannot always replace commas, but commas can replace dashes.

        thus - commas are more powerful

        thus, commas are more powerful

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          1 day ago

          Amusingly enough, one use case for em dashes is a pause where a comma would be too weak — refuting your assertion.

          Also, you used a hyphen.

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            17 hours ago

            not actually a hyphen, a minus (not that this matters to me in the slightest)

            I’m sorry, but “the pause is too weak” sounds squarely in the area of faffery to me.

            • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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              14 hours ago

              hyphen and minus is the same punctuation symbol in different contexts, at least how most people, including you, signify the mathematical symbol.

              • hyphen: -
              • minus: -
              • en-dash: –
              • em-dash: —

              so… yeah. pretty clear it doesn’t matter to you since you speak authoritatively about it while being incorrect

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              It’s more along the lines of the comma is too weak for the pause. Likewise, there are places where the em dash is too strong for the pause.