• Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world
    6·
    3 hours ago

    Ellipsis…use ellipsis often. AI seldom, if ever, uses them…So your responses don’t have the look and feel of AI.

  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
    41·
    2 hours ago

    I spent so much time in academia. A lot of us are trained to make objective and impersonal analysis (such as avoiding the use of personal pronouns “I”, “we”, “us” etc.), which I did not realise before sounds dispassionate and cold to laymen. Someone asked me if I’m a bot because apparently I sounded like an anime character. A couple of times, I get into arguments because normal folks would accuse me of “yOu aRe mAkInG ExCuSeS tO TyRaNtS!!” for making a realpolitik analysis of a situation (/r/geopolitics in Reddit is heavily derided for this by average Redditors).

    Academically trained folks are ingrained to be conscious of bias and rather encouraged to be more descriptive with the analysis, and less with prescriptive. Otherwise we’d get accused of bias. But when academics do voice out their opinions based on evidence and careful study, they’d be accused of bias. I probably don’t need to elaborate how often educational institutions are accused of being left or liberal. News flash: academics do not come in with inherent bias towards left/liberal thinking, it’s just that their study led them to be more left leaning. Wait until I tell people I am an advocate for a world government by giving UN more power. I might be accused as a globalist bot.

    • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
      1·
      2 hours ago

      i dislike, but accept, academic style. my argument against it is that the total reliance on passive voice makes research FAR less accessible to people for whom english is a second languange and neurodivergent people. older academics tell me i’m being anti-intellectual. younger academics tell me they don’t know what passive voice is and don’t believe it exists.

      i don’t really… know what to make of that divide, if i’m being honest

  • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
    9·
    12 hours ago

    That’s why I fill my points with insults and constant profanities. Can’t fucken accuse my borderline insane and blatantly violent rhetoric of being bots because im pretty sure my pros are bit shit. Also could a bot do this, you can now feel that post burn sensation on your tongue.

  • waitmarks@lemmy.world
    42·
    19 hours ago

    What an astute observation! You are absolutely right, many people can confuse well written responses as AI and that can be frustrating. Simplifying the language is a great way to make your text seem more personal and human. Let me know if you need help with anything else!

  • katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    712·
    1 day ago

    also me when people accuse me of being ai slop for using em dashes just because big tech trained their models by stealing authors work.

    • VitoRobles@lemmy.todayEnglish
      5·
      16 hours ago

      There was a comment that was a list of 15 items and some chud called it AI slop. Because it was an organized list?

    • CubitOom@infosec.pubEnglish
      31·
      1 day ago

      I like to use em, but I’m too lazy to tye them so I just use two regular dashes (–) which I guess I haven’t seen an LLM do yet.

      Its actually wild to me that people who use LLMs don’t edit the output to make it look like it was not generated.

      For me, the greatest giveaways are the emojis and bad formatting.

    • underisk@lemmy.ml
      101·
      22 hours ago

      just swap them out with semicolons; no one knows how they’re supposed to work anyway

      • 🔍🦘🛎@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        22 hours ago

        Semicolons should separate related ideas; they should work as independent sentences though.

        Em dashes–contrary to how most people use them–are for asides or supplementary information. I also see them used to show a conclusion–a direct response to a prior statement that doesn’t seem appropriate to put in a new sentence.

        • egrets@lemmy.world
          3·
          20 hours ago

          Best choice is to switch out the em dashes for parentheses ( even where that doesn’t make any sense.

    • BallShapedMan@lemmy.world
      31·
      20 hours ago

      Teaching myself to stop using the em dash has been a real pain. It helps with the flow of reading particularly when talking about technical content. I’ve gone back to the semicolon, sadly.

    • TomasEkeli@programming.dev
      43·
      19 hours ago

      em dashes are typographical faffery and have always been (in my opinion) a marker of writers who take themselves, and the surface level of their style, far too serious.

      just use commas, my friend

          • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
            2·
            3 hours ago

            no.

            • comma: do a short pause
            • hyphen: connect two related concept words to loosely create a new word
            • en dash: signify a range
            • em dash: do an abrupt, possibly long, pause or signify an attribution
            • ellipses: do a trailing, possibly long, pause
      • marcos@lemmy.world
        5·
        19 hours ago

        Just use commas, my friend

        vs.

        Just use commas – my friend

        It doesn’t work very well.

        • TomasEkeli@programming.dev
          32·
          18 hours ago

          dashes cannot always replace commas, but commas can replace dashes.

          thus - commas are more powerful

          thus, commas are more powerful

          • Jax@sh.itjust.works
            5·
            14 hours ago

            Amusingly enough, one use case for em dashes is a pause where a comma would be too weak — refuting your assertion.

            Also, you used a hyphen.

            • TomasEkeli@programming.dev
              13·
              6 hours ago

              not actually a hyphen, a minus (not that this matters to me in the slightest)

              I’m sorry, but “the pause is too weak” sounds squarely in the area of faffery to me.

              • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
                3·
                3 hours ago

                hyphen and minus is the same punctuation symbol in different contexts, at least how most people, including you, signify the mathematical symbol.

                • hyphen: -
                • minus: -
                • en-dash: –
                • em-dash: —

                so… yeah. pretty clear it doesn’t matter to you since you speak authoritatively about it while being incorrect

              • Jax@sh.itjust.works
                3·
                4 hours ago

                It’s more along the lines of the comma is too weak for the pause. Likewise, there are places where the em dash is too strong for the pause.

  • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
    305·
    1 day ago

    At this point I’d just consider it a compliment when someone accuses me of being ai. Oh you mean I spelled everything correctly and sound like a textbook? Thank you very much.

      • Paradachshund@lemmy.today
        9·
        24 hours ago

        They’ll parrot back whatever attitude you’re talking to them in. I’ve seen screenshots of other people using them and the way they were talking was completely different from how they talk to me. I also get the monotone informational version.

        It can get really fucked up actually and contributes to people humanizing the chatbot.

    • rudyharrelson@lemmy.radio
      51·
      22 hours ago

      If someone thinks your comment is AI, they’ll call it “slop” regardless of the actual quality, because they believe it wasn’t written by a person to begin with.