Look at the lines of Military families having to stand in line to receive food. Federal workers and the military aren’t getting paid because of the MAGA shutdown which happened because Republicans are afraid the Epstein files will get released.

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    I live in a heavy military area. My dad was stationed in the area before retiring, and I’ve been here since. Honestly, most of the enlisted people I’ve met are great people. They’re usually just regular working class people trying to get a better life through the benefits the military provides. I’d trust them most of the time. They usually aren’t there because they’re violent assholes seeking power.

    The police? Yeah, I don’t trust them at all. Most of them did it because they want power over their fellow citizens. They joined to have authority. They’ll shoot you for calling them a bad name without needing to be ordered to.

    If we want any hope changing things then we need allies. A lot of those people will need to be from the military. Stop making enemies. Make friends. We have enough enemies without alienating people who otherwise agree with us.

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      Imagine the number of military personnel it would require to overthrow the government. The percentage of cooperation within the military. All the branches of the military. Do you Seriously think that kind of coordination is going to happen in this country?

      There will be no revolution. The United States is a lobster boiling in a pot. When the lobster is dead, the rich will eat it and move on. This is the only reality that Ddoesn’t require wild speculation, because it’s happening every day

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        Imagine the number of military personnel it would require to overthrow the government. The percentage of cooperation within the military. All the branches of the military. Do you Seriously think that kind of coordination is going to happen in this country?

        You’re implying that the coordination is going to happen to overthrow our government though. Them siding with the Fascists to overthrow our government requires the exact same coordination as them going against it. If they can’t coordinate then they can’t coordinate. You can’t magically say it only works when they’re working with the Fascists but that it’s impossible when they work against it.

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          I do not believe there will be any large scale coordination. I believe we are a lobster in a pot. Our rights will slowly be removed one by one. Within a year, martial law will be declared, and the government will essentially be a legal dictatorship. Still, no one will do anything as long as they can get their Starbucks. The military will, under no circumstances, fight against the Trump administration.

          It’s not important for me that you believe me, So do or do not.

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            You might be right. However, that’s not what you said. You made all military personnel into enemies. How about you don’t fucking do that. You want them to fight back? Make them welcome. If you make them enemies then they’re going to be enemies. If you allow them to be allies then they may be.

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              Well, when the military enforces martial law, will they be the good guys?

              This is a yes or no question.

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                I’m not afraid to answer questions like you are. The answer is no. The military isn’t a person though. You’re making a hypothetical, assuming it’s reality, and also attributing all actions of people in the military to it before it even happens. How about you grow the fuck up. The world isn’t black and white.