Honestly, I agree with @StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net

Ok fair enough, but I wouldn’t have installed Linux if I had not seen it recommended.

I’m not a computer toucher, but I can follow written advice.

These sorts of posts always scold anyone giving out actual solutions just so being miserable can continue. This cultural thing almost has an end of history type vibe to it. It’s also pretty hostile to divergent and often solution focused neurotypes.

Linux evangelism kinda makes sense, no one is spending billions on marketing and ads for it. I think Linux evangelists should ask about use cases first, instead of just posting a generic “use Linux”.

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    No, I was referring to the kkkracker behavior of choosing to be complacent.

    People complain about windows as if Microsoft is actually going to feel bad for them. Complaining about windows is useless, Microsoft knows its fucking its users over in exact detail.

    People have been complaining about windows but still shoveling its shit since windows 7 and its tiring to keep hearing this capitalist nostalgia for the “good old times” when these people clearly have zero respect for people who do any actual change and instead call us annoying evangelists who should shut up.

    You dont use windows, you are forced into it by a capitalist, neoliberal society.

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      Sometimes I’ll complain about something because it feels good to voice my frustration about something, even if I know that complaint won’t change the situation.

      I have a lot of respect for people who use and maintain FOSS–I use quite a bit of it myself and was daily driving GrapheneOS on my phone until recently, and LineageOS before that. But I think referring to people who are comfortable with the OS they’re using as whining treatlerites isn’t super productive and I can’t say it makes me any likelier to increase the amount of FOSS in my daily life.

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        At this point you’re just asking me to be polite to people who refuse to change, and then expect people to care about their complaints while calling them annoying.

        “They used to like it, they used to be comfortable” no they were just being fucking played and now MS will turn up the heat until they burn. No one likes windows, you were never given a choice to.

        Nobody would even be having this conversation if the people accusing others of being “evangelist” would actually look at the bigger picture and not their own pity.

        and I can’t say it makes me any likelier to increase the amount of FOSS in my daily life

        Then don’t. If being called mean names makes you reject a progressive social movement then thats your call. See you in windows 12 I’m done with this conversation because its the same one each and every time.

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          You’re 100% correct. I’ve been daily driving some flavor of Linux for nearly 20 years, since way, way before it was even half as good as it is now to use on the desktop. I am sympathetic to hospitals, pharmacies, and other institutions where the grip of Windows and other crusty, proprietary systems on the various equipment and processes they require is virtually iron-tight and genuinely the difference between life or death for the patients under care. I have no sympathy for everyday desktop users who complain like this and simply don’t want to change. In a lot of ways free software (specifically A/GPL software) is the closest thing we have to genuine Marxist principles in action in our current mode of living, and if someone doesn’t want to pick up on that and support it then I can only guess what they’ll think about what the rest of the world needs to go through on the way to “fully automated luxury gay space communism”…