Saving you a click.
…it’s been 250 days.
now that immigrants have been violently torn from their families and communities have been destroyed, now that trans people have been blamed for virtually everything and live in fear, now that free speech is on the brink of collapse for us all ― has your life gotten better?
have your groceries gotten cheaper? has your health insurance premium gone down? has your work/life balance improved? can you take a vacation yet? are you happier?
And it ends with, and is essentially the question:
has the widespread suffering of others paid off for you in the way he promised it would, or are you still waiting?
I’m sorry, is that gif at the bottom ms Grande? If so, that is misogyny at it’s worse. “Look at all the serious thing she said and did, and now a cutsie pick of her sipping fizzy pop like a vacuous airhead!”
We’ll never make any progress whilst mainstream media continues like this.
Pardon me but is this a form of projection? If we as a society associate actions of women doing normal things with being a (to use your words) “vacuous airhead” we’re not making progress anyways. We need to let women exist in public without calling their existence lesser.
No, very much not. Rather a fed-upness of seeimg woman (and other social groups) belittled in mainstream media). See my other reply re being a little ott, but that’s a reflection of not being in the mood to tollerate more bs like that. Just treat people with some level respect and consistency regardless of who they are. If that was a man, there would’nt be a pic of them slurping a soft drink at the end.
I think you misunderstood “projection” in this context.
You saw “a cutsie pick of her sipping fizzy pop like a vacuous airhead!”
I saw a pick of her taking a drink through a straw, with a look of curiosity about something else.Your interpretation of the image is a sexist one.
You’ve become so enraged by sexism, the pattern recognition system in your mind is saturated and over-sensitized to it. So much so that you now see mundane things in a very sexist way. You’ve internalized the very view which you hate. And now you’re “projecting” that view onto things that aren’t at all sexist.It’s not your fault. It doesn’t make you bad. It’s just a strange quirk of how the human brain works. It can happen to anyone; Especially with a steady diet of algorithmically curated rage bait. But understanding that it can happen, allows us to look out for it in ourselves. Which is almost enough for us to stop it from happening. The other part is to stop the algorithmically curated rage bait feed.
Thank you for explaining my use of the term “projection” and the context that could lead to such behavior. I really couldn’t have explained it this well.
Ok so yes I was projecting onto the article creator. You are correct about that. However I stand by my point that was the writing and the choice of image are jaringly at odds. I.e.
“Here’s person A, look at this serious question they asked about a serious topic, oh and he’s a non serious gif of them at the end” it subtly underminds the validity of what that person said. It is quite subtle, but that’s also part of my point. Prejudices can be very subtle, and I was calling that out.
As a standalone image, I am with you in that description. However, my description is me accentuating my point, not a subconscious outpouring, let alone a reading of that image.
I’m not enraged, but I also wasn’t in the mood to just scroll on by that time. If you read anything into that then all I can say is that you’re mistaken. I get it, there’s a lot of unhinged people out there (such as for the reason you described) but I am confident in my beliefs being overall soundly grounded (if not perfect).
Fellas, is it airheaded to consume liquid?
Depends upon the liquid. If you consume lighter fluid because you think it’ll help make you “hot,” well… …you might be an air-headed redneck.
She just looks like she is waiting for a response…
Could be, could be! That would make some sense. Like “sooo, anything to say about that?”. Good shout, didn’t think of it like that!
misogyny at it’s worse
I don’t know, I can think of a million things that are more misogynistic.
Agreed. Acknowledgment of women existing and doing things (like… drinking) is not inherently misogynist. The parent comment used the words “vacuous airhead”, the linked post made no such suggestion.
> sees woman existing how she wants to
“I must save her from the evils of the world”
– the patriarchy
Ok, a little ott in my comment maybe, but it is a jarring contradiction with the otherwise seriousness of the article, which I believe stems from stronger, deeper or ingrained misogyny. E.g. “we can’t have an article about a woman without portraying her in a cute (but at least not obviously sexualised in this case) way”.
Most everything she does is “sexualized” - it’s her public persona. Never mind you’re obviously looking to be offended with such a ridiculous comment over what is basically an animated headshot - no risque bodily parts shown at all.
I didn’t (& still don’t) see it as a sexualization whatsoever. My first interpretation of it was like she was saying “hmm, that’s something to think about, isn’t it?” You seem to be one of those people who I occasionally see being told they “need to go outside and touch grass.”
Again, see my other comment for more detail. No offence was felt per se, I just had a moment of intolerance and wanted to say something for once. I think there’s been a misunderstanding of why I said what I said. Please note that I said the image wasn’t sexualised (even if much of her public/promotional imagery is), in fact I was making a point of the lack of it! Plenty of grass touching at my end, but thanks for the thought.
Sorry, but you picked a “for once” that had one of the weakest possible justifications for “saying something” that one could possibly imagine You were looking for an excuse to be offended. Full stop. There’s is absolutely NO other logical explanation I can think of, and nothing you’ve said anywhere provides one, either.
You weren’t triggered. You were on a mission. In your rush to be… *ahem* …sanctimonious (likely in a lame attempt to prop up your own ego momentarily), you instead wound up making an absolutely COMPLETE ASS of yourself.
I suggest you double check that grass you’ve supposedly been touching so much of to ensure it’s not actually AstroTurf.
P.S. I generally only ding people this strongly when they’re genuine assholes, but I honestly don’t think you are such. I don’t like misogyny, either, and have been guilty of “white knighting” myself in younger years. So please know that I get what you’re trying to say.
The thing is you really screwed up badly here, and had this happened IRL then you would have severely damaged your credibility among those who experienced it. You’re fortunate to have had this happen online, where attention spans tend to be far too short for anyone to remember you said this the next time they see your username (although some Fediverse clients like mine have the ability to assign a “tag” to people as a reminder).
You seriously need to get some perspective, and figure out why you felt the need to pick this moment to “show up” when the justification for doing so was so plainly fabricated entirely within your mind. I’m knocking you so hard because your absolutely minimal acknowledgement that you might have gone off the deep end indicates you need that extra “encouragement” to check yourself before you go off again, this time in a far worse situation to be doing it in.
Good luck.
Well I gave to completely disagree and I think that’s through a misunderstanding of what my actual point is trying to be.
That is: the choice of image is at odds with the text. Yes I made an exaggerated projection to aide my point that I see this as being sexist ( e.g. would such an image be used if it were a man?). But that doesn’t mean that I am trying to be sanctimonious or looking for an argument.
I simply saw something I didnt’t like the look of and spoke up about it.
My use of ‘for once’ was meant to refer to my belief that women can be all too often sexualised - tying in with my belief that sexism played a part in the choice of the image.
I don’t care for praise here, I only saught to raise an issue that I perceived. I feel no ‘white knighting’ about this, and if you were to meet me irl you’d soon enough learn that feeding my ego is one of the very rare things that I do, but I get your point that it can be easy to fall into such states of kind. I’m not perfect but I don’t think I’m being an ass here. Clumsy maybe, don’t express things like most people maybe leading to misunderstanding maybe. But not any of the rest.
Should I just be quiet about sexism then? Yes, this isn’t a major part of the wider issue of sexism, but sometimes it is important to discuss the smaller, more subtle parts too.
It looks to be a clip of her appearance on Hot Ones.
