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baffled_and_aghast@lemmygrad.ml to GenZedong@lemmygrad.mlEnglish · 2 天前

Is Russia’s Intervention in Ukraine Revolutionary?

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Is Russia’s Intervention in Ukraine Revolutionary?

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baffled_and_aghast@lemmygrad.ml to GenZedong@lemmygrad.mlEnglish · 2 天前
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    Revolutionary? I don’t think so. Progressive? Probably so given that the war in Ukraine is a NATO proxy war.

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      Progressive for the Russian oligarchs which no longer will have to split their pie with Ukrainian oligarchs

      https://www.idcommunism.com/2022/02/ukraine-war-joint-statement-of-communist-and-workers-parties-no-to-imperialist-war.html?m=1

      https://www.idcommunism.com/2022/07/union-of-communists-of-ukraine-on-war-and-the-tasks-of-the-working-class.html?m=1

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        NATO imperialism is the bigger enemy and is the largest external obstacle to socialist construction around the world.

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          And the pathway to socialism will be built by Russian imperialism

          At this point this is just “lesser evil-ism” comparable to the American elections (unless someone really believes that Russia is going to bring about socialism by blowing up NATO then I don’t even know what to say)

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            (unless someone really believes that Russia is going to bring about socialism by blowing up NATO then I don’t even know what to say)

            From @rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml

            I would really appreciate any posts you’d like to share as I am very interested in what’s going on in Russia.

            Sure, let me share what I have collected so far that shows clear signs that incredible things are happening within Russia:

            • Over four years, more than 63,000 people have become party members, with most of the new recruits being young people under 30 and “people of prime working age.”

            • “We are now seeing not just nostalgia for the past, but a conscious choice by millions of citizens in favor of the socialist path of development,”

            • We restored all ties with the Communist Parties of China, Vietnam, the DPRK, with India, with the Arab countries, with Latin America, with Cuba, with Venezuela, with Nicaragua.

            • The expansion and astronomical growth of grassroot movements like the Inmortal Regiment. This movement grew so large that plenty of countries around the world organized a similar march. It started small until it grew in a international movement.

            • The imperialist siege intensified and forced Russia to look elsewhere which lead to their economy into allying with plenty of the global south. This allowed more cultural/ideological exchanges with China and the DPRK.

            • Victory day Grassroot parade where people drive with the USSR flags.

            • “Our tourists are older people who want to return to the USSR because they feel that the real North Korea is similar to what it was like in the USSR. At the same time, there is a growing demand among young people.”

            • Result of a Grassroot org to make Russian schoolchildren go to the DPRK. Russian Schoolchildren’s Camping Group were briefed about the benefits of the socialist educational system enjoyed by the DPRK students

            • Vladimir Putin praised the work of the CPRF in preserving [Soviet] memory and establishing partnerships in the world.

            • Far from toppling statues, Russia puts up new monuments to Stalin

            • (This trend didn’t go unnoticed even by lib newsmedia) In May 2021, 56 percent of Russians polled by the independent Levada Center agreed that Stalin was a “great leader” — double the figure in 2016, when the Stalinization of mass consciousness had already been a clear trend for several years.

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            The argument isn’t that “Russia is going to bring about socialism”. Nobody is making that argument. You are either misunderstanding or distorting the point that is being made here. The point is that Russia’s intervention, by weakening NATO, is creating global conditions under which socialist revolutions will have an easier time happening and will have more room to breathe and survive than under the suffocating conditions of total unipolar US hegemony.

            The view of an increasing number of socialists today is that, under the present conditions, the defeat or at least loosening of the imperialist hegemonic grip on the world is a necessary precondition for the emergence of a new wave of successful proletarian revolutions. I recommend that you take the time and read the essay “Through Pluripolarity to Socialism”, which you can find here: https://internationalmanifesto.org/

            As for “Russian imperialism”, refer to what i said here: https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/7072432

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              “The point is that Russia’s intervention, by weakening NATO, is creating global conditions under which socialist revolutions will have an easier time happening and will have more room to breathe” just like any other inter-capitalist war would (like the WWI)

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                Mofo is speaking as if the October Revolution didn’t occur in the context of imperial capitalist infighting, WW1.

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                  The October revolution happened exactly because Lenin was against the WWI “During a reactionary war a revolutionary class cannot but desire the defeat of its government.” He saw the opportunity it created for social change and took it. The first thing the soviets did when they came to power was leaving the war

                  This absolutely doesn’t mean that WWI was a revolutionary war or an anti-imperialist war

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