I forgot to set a reminder so I’m a little late getting to this, but here we are again:
Are you a “tankie”?
Respond “yes” or “no”, I’ll collate results later
This process is being undertaken to determine if so-called “tankies” are conspiring to make you (yes, you) have a bad time on the internet!
vague or informal answers will be interpreted by the central authority (me). Only top level comments will be counted. I will not be providing further instructions or clarifications.
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Link to previous results (very serious) hexbear / lemmy,ml
Link to previous “are you a tankie?” thread
I’ll likely check back in a week, my old pc died so itll take a little bit of time to prettify the results and write a report
Ciao, and of course, imperialism must be destroyed.
MLs absolutely believe in freedom and democracy; get a better dictionary
Yeah, sure. They frequently repress anarchocommunists.
There is no democracy without anarchy.
Communists have historically been the closest allies to anarchists. The fact that the two umbrellas have fought as well doesn’t erase that there has been no other group anarchists or communists can claim as as close as each other.
When communists and anarchists do fight, it’s usually in the context of civil war, or in the context of anarchist groups within socialist states working to undermine socialism and push for anarchism. The communists pushing back against this isn’t “repressing anarchisn,” so much as it is socialism protecting the existing system against those who would undermine it. The USSR supported the Spanish anarchists because at the time they shared common goals, but when anarchists organize for the overthrow of socialist states, that’s when conflict arises.
We could flip this on its head just as easily: anarchism represses communism, in that both fundamentally come to opposite conclusions: anarchists seek full horizontalism and decentralization, while communists seek full collectivization, which means that though our goals are often fully aligned, they do diverge in the final analysis and as such no anarchist society would genuinely allow communism to be pushed for if it came to exist, and would have to oppress communists.
Liberals always repressed anarchocommunists too, and even anarchocommunists support repressing some people: anarcho capitalists, for example.
I guess they don’t believe in freedom or democracy either
Except that MLs repress all of those.
Anarchocommunism represses none, as it favours freedom of speech, freedom from money and greed, and freedom from hierarchy.
Anarchocapitalism doesn’t exist; it’s mostly libertarians in disguise, who want a repressive Cyberpunk dystopia.
Anarchists necessarily must repress fascism, liberalism, and even communism in order to continue existing, if it came to be. This is historically true as well. You’re confusing the liberatory aspects of such a theoretical system with the idea that nobody would oppose it.
How is that “except”? Why is it ok when liberals do it then?
Really? So fascists are allowed to organize pogroms at will?
As opposed to all those anarchocommunists societies, that definitely do exist.