Toxic masculinity is a global phenomenon, but nowhere is it more virulent than in this hypermodern, connected society. What can other countries learn from this ‘ground zero’ of misogyny?
It’s because SK men have become incredibly conservative in the recent generation while SK women now want the non-traditional norms of respect and personal freedom. Conservative ideas forcing people to be something they don’t want to be is causing a rift. Authoritarians continue to fuck up shit.
It’s because SK men have become incredibly conservative in the recent generation
They were always this way… I don’t blame the women for opting out, the clownregime expects them to work full time while having kids with no socioeconomic support while dealing with an “alpha” male at home.
The regime and these cucks will need to do something.
This was an amazingly frustrating ride, what the heck. I feel like somebody punched me in the gut then set me on a rollercoaster that went underwater or something.
I don’t even know where to start. I always kinda assumed feminism was a kinda good movement because women want rights and also conveniently it can be used to distract people from class war issues, which is why it’s pushed by the media.
But South Korea … what the actual fuck. What the actual fuck, i’m speechless.
Do these people not see people as people? How can you focus so much on someone’s sex/gender. Where is the fairness in this?
Where is the fairness in 18 months of compulsory national service for men only ?
You say this like a gotcha, but was this difference missed by women or was it imposed by men? Men treating women differently also results in unfair treatment of men.
Regardless of who caused it, reform is being blocked by the Christian lobby. Of COURSE it’s the fucking religion nutcases
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Where is the fairness in 18 months of compulsory national service for men only ?
Where is the fairness in 18 months of pregnancy for women only (in case of two children)?
Being pregnant is a choice, military is not
Facts but the same regime is also now big mad women choosing to not have kids though.
but to stay constructive … i assume that the fact that people work so much kinda exhausts them and tires them out emotionally, which is why people cut back on dating (because they’re too exhausted for that), and suddenly you have a whole lot of guys saying “hey, why don’t we get female attention”?
Women are not responsible for your happiness. Grow the fuck up. If you are a worthless pos incel loser— start there, that is the reason no woman wants you. Lastly, why the fuck do you think you “deserve” to have a woman? Women aren’t things to own, moron. Work on yourself because that is where happiness will start.
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Was propoganda a factor there?
Funny how, when women are unhappy, they’re told they’re too emotional, need therapy, need medication, need to work on themselves. And when men are unhappy, it’s someone else’s fault.
when women are unhappy, they’re told they’re too emotional, need therapy, need medication, need to work on themselves.
This is a refrain I’ve heard pretty consistently directed at men.
No no, when men become unhappy, it’s “because they’re incels”
As a man, I have experienced the exact opposite.
When I have seen women unhappy, entire communities have come together to help them. White knights, in particular, fall all over themselves to help her.
When I have seen men unhappy, it’s invariably accompanied by women saying, “so fucking what? Man up, you baby.”
Sure, those men who understand how to help also reach out to assist unhappy men. But they do their best to avoid doing so in the presence of women, otherwise that “un-manliness” gets infected over to them as well like a miasma, and news of that percolates throughout the wider social group. It never ends well for any man who visibly assists, unless they’re wearing a uniform in an official capacity.
Maybe you need different friends. I certainly don’t get that reaction from my social group.
Maybe you need different friends.
Removing all women from my social sphere seems to be just a little bit extreme…
But they do their best to avoid doing so in the presence of women, otherwise that “un-manliness” gets infected over to them as well like a miasma, and news of that percolates throughout the wider social group.
Where the fuck do you live, Afghanistan?
“Women get whatever they want”, “white knights”, “men can only help other men behind the scenes, otherwise people start avoiding them” - honestly, that sounds like toxic manosphere shit.
“Women get whatever they want”, “white knights”, “men can only help other men behind the scenes, otherwise people start avoiding them” - honestly, that sounds like toxic manosphere shit.
Direct observation of interpersonal interactions in the community at large can be one hell of a superpower for anyone dedicated to evidence and facts. It’s why I prefer it, myself.
And you can do better than strawman attacks and claiming things I never said. Or will you double down and let fly with a full-on ad hominem next? You already came close with that last bullshit line.
Can you provide some evidence and facts to back up your statements?
Ah, an angry, argumentative pseudo-intellectual. I don’t think further conversation with you will add anything to my life, so I’m blocking you now. Goodbye.
Ah, an angry, argumentative pseudo-intellectual. I don’t think further conversation with you will add anything to my life, so I’m blocking you now. Goodbye.
Now THAT is a proper, intellectually bankrupt ad hominem.
You really have nothing anvailable, other than personal attacks, do you? Feelings before facts, I suppose – it fits the pattern.
Yeah, “white knight” is usually a dead giveaway.
Yeah, “white knight” is usually a dead giveaway.
How so? Especially since the term has been in common use since the 17th century. That’s a good 400+ years, now.
I can’t tell if this is bad faith or hopelessly misguided. The historical use of “white knight” (a folkloric or literary trope) has nothing to do with the usage you used here.
People who use it as you used it, in my experience, usually have a “manospheric” pespective on gender interactions, with an assumption of combatitive, winners and losers based behaviour from both sides.
Where the fuck do you live, Afghanistan?
Nope. North America. It’s where this is most frequently seen.
In fact, men supporting men is a lot better in Islam than it is in western culture. You can hug other men and talk about insecurities with each other far more freely there. It’s homosexuality, specifically, that they have an issue with.
Maybe you should move to Afghanistan? Your community sounds fucked beyond belief. And I can assure it isn’t the norm in most parts of the world.
Maybe you should move to Afghanistan?
I’m not responsible for the anti-male gender bigotries that others hold.
As an egalitarianist I’ll call it out when I have the opportunity to do so, but I’m staying right where I am, thanks.
What a hero.
Who tells this to women?
Do you have a link to news article suggesting something like this?
Men in America have for decades
All men?
Enough to create the culture is all it takes. Being here I would hope that you understand we do this to each other too
People in US can pick and chose their culture.
Are women not allowed to choose the men in their lives?
Not really, can’t choose your family. And your ability to relocate jobs, community, or even out of relationships can be restricted by income.
And trying to change our culture is often met with reactionary backlash. I don’t know if you’ve looked into Edward Bernays but the state of gender relations started bad here by default and was made institutionally disastrous by our government. It actually is baked in to our culture just to be shitty to women and others who don’t meet specific ideals.
Ok some women grew up in households with loser men in charge and useless moms.
What would you estimate % of such households is?
