I think you’ve fundamentally misunderstood the point.
The margin that Trump won by, was higher than the number of “Leftist protest voters”, unless you’re dishonestly counting every non-voter in the country as a Leftist protester.
8 million more people voted for Biden in 2020 than harris in 2024. Thats way bigger than Trump’s margin of 760k. Trump didn’t even win a majority but a plurality.
I’m sorry that you don’t see how the most massive decline in participants of one party, ever, from one US election to the next has anything to do with the concept of protest voters throwing the election to Trump.
I don’t, because nothing in that statistic proves or even demonstrates anything whatsoever about the roles of protest votes versus any and every other factor affecting an election.
If you’re going to claim that leftist protest voters only existed in 2016 and 2024, but all capitulated to the Dems in 2020, then go ahead, but the statistic you’re quoting doesn’t prove that in any way.
I think what changed between 2020 and 2024 is the average person is such a moron that they forgot how bad a Trump admin would be. The world doesn’t blame Trump for whats happening in America, they blame Americans for choosing this.
I feel like a lot of leftists figured Harris was horrible so they might as well teach everyone a lesson and sit the vote out helping Trump ultimately win.
I said helping, not being the cause of.
It’s like you’re arguing that just because you voted Trump your vote wasn’t the deciding one so he’s not your fault.
But between the protest votes and the non voters they definitely caused Trump to be elected.
At which point the facts backing up your anti-leftist tirade become so weak as to be meaningless. You’re ascribing a level of responsibility to Leftists that you’re quite happy to let literally everyone else in the country off the hook for, including people who actually voted Trump.
This is the second third time this thread that your reply reads as though you literally just haven’t understood the post you’re replying to. The first time round I was happy to explain myself in more detail, but now it’s starting to feel like you’re not making a good faith effort to read before typing.
I can see it alright. My vote 3.5 years from now doesn’t impact what Trump does next week though. How Dem leadership reacts when he does it might impact that vote though.
There’s a good chance we’re a week away from Trump sending out squads to round up anyone he deems left.
If you can’t see it I definitely can’t show you.
What you just said doesn’t follow from the point octopus_ink was making.
Why not?
Every protest voter and non voter contributed to the reality we’re currently living in.
I think you’ve fundamentally misunderstood the point.
The margin that Trump won by, was higher than the number of “Leftist protest voters”, unless you’re dishonestly counting every non-voter in the country as a Leftist protester.
8 million more people voted for Biden in 2020 than harris in 2024. Thats way bigger than Trump’s margin of 760k. Trump didn’t even win a majority but a plurality.
I can’t tell which side you’re trying to argue there, because the results of a different election entirely aren’t particularly relevant to either…
I’m sorry that you don’t see how the most massive decline in participants of one party, ever, from one US election to the next has anything to do with the concept of protest voters throwing the election to Trump.
I don’t, because nothing in that statistic proves or even demonstrates anything whatsoever about the roles of protest votes versus any and every other factor affecting an election.
If you’re going to claim that leftist protest voters only existed in 2016 and 2024, but all capitulated to the Dems in 2020, then go ahead, but the statistic you’re quoting doesn’t prove that in any way.
I think what changed between 2020 and 2024 is the average person is such a moron that they forgot how bad a Trump admin would be. The world doesn’t blame Trump for whats happening in America, they blame Americans for choosing this.
I said helping, not being the cause of.
It’s like you’re arguing that just because you voted Trump your vote wasn’t the deciding one so he’s not your fault.
But between the protest votes and the non voters they definitely caused Trump to be elected.
At which point the facts backing up your anti-leftist tirade become so weak as to be meaningless. You’re ascribing a level of responsibility to Leftists that you’re quite happy to let literally everyone else in the country off the hook for, including people who actually voted Trump.
Between the protest voters and non voters we’re past eighty million.
Are you claiming that twenty five percent of the potential voters are meaningless?
This is the
secondthird time this thread that your reply reads as though you literally just haven’t understood the post you’re replying to. The first time round I was happy to explain myself in more detail, but now it’s starting to feel like you’re not making a good faith effort to read before typing.If you believe that you’re not reading or understanding what I am saying though.
I can see it alright. My vote 3.5 years from now doesn’t impact what Trump does next week though. How Dem leadership reacts when he does it might impact that vote though.