Laura Loomer is a paid AIPAC soulless ghoul
Ah yes, the good old american Maoism.
I’m not sure I want to follow Charlie Kirk career path. It sort of seems like a dead-end.
he washed out of college, and made money being a grifter of people stupider than he is, and on occaision doing Shapiro specials, of “gotcha moments on the left”
He made his living from wingnut welfare.
Wasn’t going to colleges his entire career?
conservative college too. i heard the way people like shapiro and kirk appears on college, is that a fan in the admin that allows them to speak there. thats how people got seinfeld and darthmouth or butke.(i dont think the whole admin approves, they only need one to do it.)
Holy non sequitur. That argument might make some sense if he was an engineer or something. You don’t need any education to be a podcaster. Just start yapping.
Charlie Kirk didn’t go to college.
No but he did die at a University.
He never wanted an education, but at least someone gave him a good shot at college.
Did not even have to take out a loan to attend.
Didn’t their hero Trump go to college? Also, SHE went to college, a couple of different ones.
Fucking hell this woman, a month ago she was saying he was a traitor and now he is a public hero? Every single day she lowers her humanity bar more to new depths I didn’t know was possible. I am pretty convinced she is just trying to increase her visibility via rage baits.
she has her marching orders from putin, her financier, much like most of the grifters right now.
And look where that got him…
Lol I was about to say “do you want to be like Charlie Kirk?”
Defund American universities? If tuition goes toward funding universities, does that mean… naaaah that’s socialism!
they will fund conservative colleges solely.
I mean, no one educated should be on Twitter.
Seriously. Do people not understand ‘don’t feed the trolls’?
“Don’t feed the trolls” sounds great in theory, and for your own personal sanity it makes sense. Unfortunately ignoring people like this doesn’t make them go away though. Instead, the lack of any pushback to their vitriol and lies just pulls in even more people and makes their message stronger.
Also “don’t feed the trolls” was killed by 4chan’s networked harrasment campaigns, and said 4channers wanted to reinterpret that saying as “leave the internet”, “don’t do the thing we harrassed you over”, etc.
exactly,
You can push back.
Just not on their turf.
If you were in Nazi Germany, would you push back in a forum personally set up by Hilter to make you look like provocateur then cut you off? No. That would be stupid, and even worse, validates the platform with your presence.
You go somewhere else. And bring people with you.
I think George Takei gets a pass. He’s there as a warrior, buddy. (edit ok but not alex cole who is that guy lol, and I forgot that’s George’s bluesky account. I’ll just shut up now. slinks away)
i’m gonna be honest, i give takei a pass because he’s takei. we’ve all gotten to know him parasocially over the years. i can think of a hundred excuses for him, but honestly he just seems like a righteous dude. he doesn’t need an excuse for where he chooses to online, as long as it’s not stormfront or krasnovsocial he’s cool.
Very good points!
Do people not understand ‘don’t feed the trolls’?
No, and broadly we have to stop expecting better of people. It’s in our instincts to latch onto narratives, either for or against them.
Instead our task as the better people should have always been to create better narratives, and since this generation of social media warriors all learned how to craft narratives from like, freeform erotic isekai K-pop furry fanfiction roleplay in private discord channels, I am not holding my breath that we’re going to take the stage anytime soon.
create better narratives
THIS is the fallacy!
Twitter is not a fair forum, it’s an engagement -> profit engine. It does not show posts fairly. The entire premise of it being a tug of war between narratives like some free speech dream is a fat lie.
Even if ‘this generation’ were Mensa narrative makers, that’d feed the troll engine all the better, like how I’ve seen people say they stay on Reddit to ‘fight back.’ The only game to play is to the bottom. The only way out is not to play.
I dunno how to communicate that en masse, but we did it with cigarettes, so it’s not impossible.
The only way out is not to play.
For yourself, yes. If you have realized all of what you said and want a better outcome for yourself, absolutely stop playing, you will have a better life.
But the vast majority of people are not stopping. The vast majority of people are falling deeper down the slippery sides of the pitcher-plant because this is what we are as a species, we are narrative-seekers, that is my point, we cannot escape.
Even if you shut it all off and live your best life, the decisions that some asshole in power makes will still impact you at some point, because he read something someone posted once and it changed the way he looks at the story. We don’t get out. We can buy time, but there is no real escape. I’m sorry.
I mean, I think Twitter is more fragile than you think.
It doesn’t have THAT many participants; statistically, normal people don’t really use it. It’s not that far from losing the public eye and being a self-indulgent (but not publicly influential) zoo kind of like 4chan is.
When I refer to the internet narrative-scape, I include everything. Facebook, Reddit, turthscoial or whatever the right-wing ones are, all the way back here to Lemmy. These are the places where the people growing up to make tomorrow’s decisions have their attitudes and beliefs shaped and reshaped.
I mean, the ones who grow up at least. That seems to be falling out of style.
That seems to be falling out of style.
thank you for seeing me
I think some are less explicitly optimized for political rage-bait though. Facebook is pretty bad, but things like say, Discord or Telegram (popular destinations) are awful in different ways.
Truth Social will always be niche. I know it’s very ‘year of linux’ but I’m convinced Reddit is near its immolation stage. Lemmy and federated social media won’t be ‘influential’ for a long time, they’re in for the long run.
Didn’t he get shot in college?
He lived by the college campus and died by the college campus.
Right wing grifters have seen great success directly targeting young people, from Ben Shapeepo and Jordan Peterson doing this along side Kirk for years through to people like Steve Bannon targeting WoW players, and the efforts recruiting from 4chan, and this is just what we know about.
They are groomers and indoctrination agents, they are everything we need to fight in society, so let’s not let the current uproar and narrative crafting stop us from protesting and pushing back on these full-grown-ass men with millions of dollars “just hanging out” in our school campuses.
He only went for lunch
Wasn’t he also against free lunches?
Apparently the last one cost his life, which is far from free.And lies.
Charlie’s only shot ar college was to debate new adults with a decade worth of adulthood less than he. He debated with a 10 handicap.
Charlie’s only shot at college
Recent circumstances suggest he got one additional shot.
zing!
Funny how he’d never ‘debate’ actual educated adults.
“debate”
Came across a few posts saying he was a compelling debator.
Saw the post of him debating on school lunches. At one point, in response to being asked if he supports free school lunches, he calls the student stupid and says there is not a single child starving in America.
If this is what we consider compelling debate we’re cooked.
Yep. And that’s most of these right wing “debaters” do. They talk fast, with as much authority and confidence they can muster, try to make people feel stupid for not seeing the world the way they see it, and then moving on before they get called out for the bull shit they spew.
He died doing what he loved, dodging questions.
I imagine the majority of his “compelling debator” façade came from careful editing of the videos
I’ve been seeing clips of Mehdi Hasan giving people a solid drubbing. Would’ve liked seeing him thrash Kirk as well.
and the jubilee channel stunt he did a while back too. 20"woke students" vs charlie kirk.
Laura Loomer is certifiably insane.
Laura looney
She looks so normal though, that’s the trap.
she did, once upon a time. everything i’ve seen lately looks like the work of one specific bad plastic surgeon i wish they’d name so everyone knows not to go there
There must also be a mental health issue here?
i want to say so but that’s just me being mean toward republicans. it also may be strategic. i have heard unsubstantiated rumors that a certain specific disfigured look gets you in krasnov’s good graces and inner circle.
Temu Jigsaw does not look normal.
Something looks off about her even before she opens her mouth.
She looks so normal though
This is a perfect lie because no doctor will come out and say they worked on her.
Her current appearance came from no mortal doctor’s hands, it’s pure evil oozing out and taking shape, her final form is going to be some Moai easter-island-looking monolith that villagers will have to sacrifice babies to every year to guarantee safety from the creeping mist that pours from her mouth-cavern every full moon.
She’s an entire season of Nip/Tuck.
Two seasons of Botched
What do you mean Kirk didn’t go to college? He was killed at one!
He didn’t finish college but a college finished him!
“In Soviet Amerika…”. Yadda, yadda, yadda
