You’re being downvoted to hell, but you’re right. A name alone doesn’t mean shit. Republicans don’t care about the republic, for example. They want a dictatorship.
I will say, everything I know about Antifa is legitimately anti-fascist. The name happens to correlate with the reality in this case.
I will say, everything I know about Antifa is legitimately anti-fascist.
Antifa is literally short for anti-fascist. It’s a slang. Antifa is not an organization or even a movement per se, it’s just a hip word for the ideological stance “fuck fascism”. So it says a lot when a politician proclaims that they’re antiantifa
It’s not just slang. There are and have been actual groups that use the term to define themselves. Yeah, it’s also sometimes just a term to define intent, but it hasn’t always just been that.
My point is, just taking someone’s word for something is risky. Many groups have used terms “incorrectly” to deceive others. Yeah, antifi, in all the iterations I know of, does not have this issue, but it doesn’t change the fact that the name alone is not enough to know intention.
That the word can be misused seems beside the point, no? A liar can call themselves “anti-fascist” just as easily as they can call themselves “antifa”. That doesn’t change the meaning of the word though, it just makes them a liar.
It’s not beside the point. It’s literally the point the comment above was making. Yes, it makes them a liar. That’s what this chain has been saying. Them being a liar doesn’t change the fact they’re calling themselves that. Again, Nazis called themselves socialist. Going after them doesn’t mean you’re against socialism.
Yes, for the most part. However there are different meanings to different people. Some mean antifa to mean being generally opposed to fascism . Others take it to mean being politically active to disrupt fascism. Others on the right use it as a made up term for a non existent terrorist group, as a means to undermine actual efforts to disrupt fascism and exert control.
If you ask most people are they against fascism and they say yes. Ask if they are a member of antifa and they say no.
You’re being downvoted to hell, but you’re right. A name alone doesn’t mean shit. Republicans don’t care about the republic, for example. They want a dictatorship.
I will say, everything I know about Antifa is legitimately anti-fascist. The name happens to correlate with the reality in this case.
Antifa is literally short for anti-fascist. It’s a slang. Antifa is not an organization or even a movement per se, it’s just a hip word for the ideological stance “fuck fascism”. So it says a lot when a politician proclaims that they’re antiantifa
It’s not just slang. There are and have been actual groups that use the term to define themselves. Yeah, it’s also sometimes just a term to define intent, but it hasn’t always just been that.
My point is, just taking someone’s word for something is risky. Many groups have used terms “incorrectly” to deceive others. Yeah, antifi, in all the iterations I know of, does not have this issue, but it doesn’t change the fact that the name alone is not enough to know intention.
That the word can be misused seems beside the point, no? A liar can call themselves “anti-fascist” just as easily as they can call themselves “antifa”. That doesn’t change the meaning of the word though, it just makes them a liar.
It’s not beside the point. It’s literally the point the comment above was making. Yes, it makes them a liar. That’s what this chain has been saying. Them being a liar doesn’t change the fact they’re calling themselves that. Again, Nazis called themselves socialist. Going after them doesn’t mean you’re against socialism.
Yes, for the most part. However there are different meanings to different people. Some mean antifa to mean being generally opposed to fascism . Others take it to mean being politically active to disrupt fascism. Others on the right use it as a made up term for a non existent terrorist group, as a means to undermine actual efforts to disrupt fascism and exert control.
If you ask most people are they against fascism and they say yes. Ask if they are a member of antifa and they say no.