Dwazoupp@lemmy.worldBanned to Progressive Politics@lemmy.world · edit-26 days agoThe Nation, oldest progressive newspaper in the US, doesn't pull any puncheswww.thenation.comexternal-linkmessage-square104linkfedilinkarrow-up1739arrow-down14
arrow-up1735arrow-down1external-linkThe Nation, oldest progressive newspaper in the US, doesn't pull any puncheswww.thenation.comDwazoupp@lemmy.worldBanned to Progressive Politics@lemmy.world · edit-26 days agomessage-square104linkfedilink
minus-squarepeetabix@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up7arrow-down2·5 days ago freedom of speech does not equal freedom from the consequences of saying something. Exactly.
minus-squareLushed_Lungfish@lemmy.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up12·5 days agoI’ve seen it summed it up thusly: “If your speech incites violence, don’t be surprised when people use violence in response.”
minus-squareOccamsRazer@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down6·5 days agoSo I guess fights at professional sports games are justified violence, since someone probably incited it by insulting an opposing player.
minus-squarebrisk@aussie.zonelinkfedilinkarrow-up11·5 days agoYou’re confusing incitement and provocation. Incitement involves actively encouraging action. “you’re bad at hockey and your mother is large” might be provocation “It is time for us to take up arms against the enemy” is incitement
minus-squareOccamsRazer@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·5 days agoI think a lot of people are confused about what constitutes incitement.
minus-squaresqgl@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up1·4 days agoYeah would be clearer to say “advocating for violence”.
minus-squareprole@lemmy.blahaj.zonelinkfedilinkarrow-up1·4 days agoThis is unironically true for hockey lol
Exactly.
I’ve seen it summed it up thusly: “If your speech incites violence, don’t be surprised when people use violence in response.”
So I guess fights at professional sports games are justified violence, since someone probably incited it by insulting an opposing player.
You’re confusing incitement and provocation.
Incitement involves actively encouraging action.
“you’re bad at hockey and your mother is large” might be provocation
“It is time for us to take up arms against the enemy” is incitement
I think a lot of people are confused about what constitutes incitement.
Yeah would be clearer to say “advocating for violence”.
This is unironically true for hockey lol