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    6 days ago

    Thanks for this. I didn’t know who this turd was, now I have a better idea. REST IN PISS!

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    LOL, warms the heart to know this disgusting nazi traitor was shot dead. Fuck the republican traitor filth.

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      Even better he was shot by one of his own. Just a slightly different denomination of hater.

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    You know what really pisses me off about the paul pelosi attack? Like, really just makes me want to eat some bacon?

    I have seen cop training. I know what they do. One of the favorite training methods is a projected screen (to get things to life size), with some fancy tools to track where a fake gun/taser/pepper spray is pointed, and there are two guys running the computer in the background as an officer interacts with the scenario on the screen. The computer guys can change the scenario based on what is said/done/acted. There is a scenario that usually comes up with entry into a house where one person has a crowbar and is kneeling above another person lying supine beneath him.

    The cops have a training scenario for this screams internally EXACT FUCKING SCENARIO! And they are ALL taught that the correct answer is to shoot the person with the crowbar if the scenario suddenly shows him lifting the crowbar for another strike.

    That dude with the hammer should have been kirked.

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      What you do in a training scenario and what you do when it actually happens are two different things. Cops likely had no idea who the victim was, so them having inaction because of who it was is very unlikely

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        What you do in a training scenario and what you do when it actually happens are two different things.

        You’re absolutely right, and that may be the case. However, it must be admitted that is is much more rare to not follow your training than to carry out what you’ve trained for when you train for a specific scenario. Plus, this wasn’t even a split second thing. The fact that they’re at the door talking to the dude for a significant period of time gave them a lot of time to do the whole ‘one gun, one taser’ cop thing.

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      The subtle difference was that Pelosi’s attacker had his hands on the hammer as well as Pelosi and they were both white. It looks like they were unsure as to who the attacker was.

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      To be kirked be needed to hold the opinion that it’s ok for other people to die and it’s just the consequence of being in a free society…

      Oh. He was trying to kill someone. Yes kirked is the right term.

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    Lol this is the second time a banned user’s post got on the front page.

    Also emojis is very uncanny somehow especially with the “banned” banner right next to the username. Like who the f uses “👉”? Cringe Youtubers? Just use bullet points lol. 350 posts in 5 days, jeez, and I thought I looked like a bot. 🤣

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      i wouldn’t call it a blessing, it’s being used to further all their shitty views and somehow make the left look violent.

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        Nothing the left or centre does will ever be enough. Violence is upon you whether you recognize it or not.

        Their shitty views were being advanced regardless of the circumstances because the psychopaths aren’t constrained by morals, ethics, logic, reason, facts or coherence. Everything is disingenuous, and used for weaponized purpose.

        Everything is disingenuous. Everything is disingenuous. Everything is disingenuous.

        There is no logic. No reason. No debate. Everything they do and say is to grab power for power’s sake. Your mistake, is to imply that if Kirk weren’t killed, the fascists would have less reason to hate, persecute and commit acts of violence on everyone else. They hate you not because of what you do, but that you broke their cardinal rule - you’re not one of them, therefore a target.

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            Okay, sure. They’re the same.

            Find me an equivalent clip with consistent and unanswered vileness that’s even close to comparable from a left wing darling.

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            Ah yes, Sun Tzu said “If your opponent calls you the same thing you call him, there’s no comeback, game over.”

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              They’ll keep using this ‘your intolerance feels like their intolerance’ argument, and this is the answer. It’s like they’re surprised about what intolerance for intolerance feels like. It feels like intolerance. Treating fascists like fascists by acting fascist doesn’t make someone a fascist. It makes them reasonable. They mocked the tolerance of the left so much, now they can meet the intolerant left.

              You’ll hear them whine more and more about ‘horseshoe theory.’ This is what they’re crying about. Remember that they can choose to not be a fascist or fascist apologists, and be met with tolerance. But they victimize people based on things that are not choices.

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            Yes, projection is a core skill on the right. That doesn’t mean both sides are the same by any means. Facts and truthful arguments are a thing.

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              You know, I’m starting to think it’s not just projection but actually implementing the “law of power” along the line of “accused your enemy of what you’re doing, as you’re doing it.”

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        They were going to do that anyways, that was always the plan. You guys keep walking on eggshells and you’re going to give them all the room they need to finish you off. Signs a month from now are not cutting it.

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          You’re saying that as if this is a violent uprising, as if it’s damage enough to stop any oppression. We used to have a man who might’ve asked to keep some progressives alive to debate them. In his place is fodder for those who would not.

          “They were going to do it anyways” is not reason to help their believability.

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          Their current slate of others is not the reason, they are the first victims. The people that have led us to this place do not actually give a shit about trans or people of color, they care about money. The ones that wrote the game plan and are running the plays. The religious and others are just allies. For now.

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        They don’t need real reasons to do their bullshit. Plus this guy was one of them anyway. How come the left is constantly defending themselves for being nonviolent when it’s the right that is constantly doing the violence? See the trump assassination attempt, the mn shooting, and most recently the Nazis death.

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          It’s a longer term play. If 40% of the populace is committed against MAGA, and 40% is irredeemably invested in MAGA, that leaves 20% so out of touch with current events they haven’t formed any strong opinion. Yes, the MAGA administration is going to do the bullshit anyway. But feeding into the “both sides are the same” narrative might tip the balance of voters into re-voting in the bullshit doers.

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            You misunderstood me. This is all propaganda and the real violent members are on the right. I’m saying we need to literally fight fascism here, not tiptoe around this shit as it’s already here. Who cares about their framing, it’s always a lie anyway.

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        They were gonna do all the shitty things anyway. Appeasement never works against fascism. Bullets work. We learned this in WWII.

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        That is happening regardless. Notice martial law already being imposed on cities without even a good reason for it. Or if you recall 2020 them nurturing paramilitary groups that they protected from people who fought back against them.

        There is no world where these guys were not already going to do all this stuff.

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        They already paint the left that way.

        And frankly, if that’s how they’re going to frame the left being non-violent, I feel like they might as well be violent and help the world out.

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    Warning: Video clips into bodycam footage of the attack on Paul Pelosi. The blow is not on camera, it’s behind a wall, but it’s on the startling side for sure.

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    Another example of what a utter piece of shit Kirk was. The idea that our government is flying flags at half mast and people are being fired for criticizing this blimp headed monstrosity is infuriating.

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      an airforce escort for his coffin spits in the eye of every service member that’s had to toil with Trump’s bullshit. absolutely disgusting.

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    “Why is the Republican Party, why is the conservative movement to blame for gay, schizophrenic nudists that are hemp jewelry-makers breaking into somebody’s home, or maybe not breaking into somebody’s home,” Kirk said in the segment. “Why are we to blame for that exactly?” “And why is he still in jail? Why has he not been bailed out? By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out… Bail him out and then go ask him some questions.”

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    DePape was captured on video, hitting Paul Pelosi in the head repeatedly with a hammer. That’s attempted murder. You don’t bludgeon someone in the head to teach them a lesson. No Democrat, even in a cashless bail city/state would say someone like that should be freed.

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      Cashless bail (or even no bail at all) doesn’t mean no pre-trial detention for people who really deserve it, so I’m not even sure why you’d bring it up. Of course they wouldn’t free him

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    Do you have a longer segment that mentions who he’s talking about? I’d like to send this to people, but I don’t it’ll be as clear to them what he’s talking about.

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    Wow, he sure was a lot more articulate back in those days when he still had a neck.