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    2 days ago

    Let me guess, you sat out the last election because of Gaza, didn’t you?

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      Dude, can you read? I just said in this thread that I’d vote for him in a two horse race. But I’m going to be vocal about him being transphobic trash as I do so.

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        Honestly, it was the rational move and if more people had done it things would be different right now.

        But that does not mean you have fucking campaign for her, whether on Lemmy or anywhere else.

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          Ah, good old whataboutism. I know it seems crazy, but hear me out: you are not the only country out there. 🤯 So, back to the topic were you happy about her genocide plan?

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            Essentially no one was happy about her pro Israel stance. There just wasn’t another option that was better that actually had a chance at winning. While she is also bad she is no where near as bad as Trump is.

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              Okay, thank you for a proper answer and not just a sassy comment to shame who doesn’t stomach dead kids.

              I do have a couple of problem with this approach:

              • every person on the ballot has a chance to win
              • If you keep voting the “not as bad as” candidate you will inevitably end up with fascism
              • You CAN NOT blame you own neighbours and friends for having a conscience and not voting a genocide (this is even crazy to write jesus christ)
              • kamala was a last moment placeholder with no real proposals other then “not trump”
              • jill stein was on the ballot
              • mamdani, corbyn and melenchon (to name just a few) were and will always be portrayed as marginal, small and insignificant by the ruling establishment, it’s propaganda
              • Trump is a dictator and there will never be a fair election as long as maga are in power
              • Newsom, Trump, Kamala, AOC, Bernie and 95% of the US political class is paid by the same lobby. If you cheer for newsom you are falling for the same trick.

              I just hope for an american awakening rather than nuclear winter.

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                There weren’t enough people who voted third party to be able to change the results of the election even if they had all voted for Harris.

                Don’t say you have only a couple issues if there are 8 issues you have. I’m going to go point by point.

                • every person on the ballot has a chance to win

                While that is technically true it is extremely unlikely. Like I just said there were not enough people who voted third party to change this election even if they all voted for Harris. I don’t like that we are in a 2 party system but we are.

                If you keep voting the “not as bad as” candidate you will inevitably end up with fascism

                This is false the same way how you said every person on the ballot can win is true. Theoretically the not as bad as candidate could be a great candidate. In practice though I agree but there currently isn’t another option.

                You CAN NOT blame you own neighbours and friends for having a conscience and not voting a genocide (this is even crazy to write jesus christ)

                I don’t never said I did. While I do think that Harris would have been wayyy better than trump I do agree that she would have most likely perpetuated the genocide for at least some time

                kamala was a last moment placeholder with no real proposals other then “not trump”

                True. Which honestly a pretty solid proposal

                jill stein was on the ballot

                She has her own issues

                mamdani, corbyn and melenchon (to name just a few) were and will always be portrayed as marginal, small and insignificant by the ruling establishment, it’s propaganda

                Kinda true they are small idk about insignificant

                Trump is a dictator and there will never be a fair election as long as maga are in power

                Maybe yeah probably. You know who isn’t maga? Harris. So would you rather have an election or not?

                Newsom, Trump, Kamala, AOC, Bernie and 95% of the US political class is paid by the same lobby. If you cheer for newsom you are falling for the same trick.

                Simply not true Bernie is mostly funded by small donations same with AOC except she is funded even more (percentage wise) from small donations. Newsom and Trump true. I know Newsom is probably just another Obama but less charismatic. I think what he is currently doing is funny but I realize he is not a good candidate.

                An American awakening would be sick but you have to realize that’s extremely unlikely

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                  You agreed with most of my issues lol and those you said I’m wrong you didn’t even had the courage to double check. So allow me:

                  Like I just said there were not enough people who voted third party to change this election even if they all voted for Harris. I don’t like that we are in a 2 party system but we are.

                  • This is such a stupid weak ass take. Again, JILL STEIN WAS ON THE BALLOT, saying it’s a 2 party system is a factual LIE. If people stop bitching about third parties and actually vote them (like I proved to you happened in many other countries or events), surprise! You can actually vote out these scumbags out!

                  Unlikely is different than not true, you use this word way too much.

                  • You literally adopted the strategy of “not as bad as” and are in an open fascist country. What the fuck are talking about?!? Democrats murdered millions of people without touching Americans, you were cool with it.

                  Which honestly a pretty solid proposal

                  • you are not a serious person, you deserve to go bankrupt on medical bills, maybe at that point you will understand.

                  She has her own issues

                  • and not going to elaborate on it? Now the “not trump” and “not genocide” is not valid anymore? Truly unserious pathetic person.

                  Simply not true Bernie is mostly funded by small donations same with AOC except she is funded even more (percentage wise) from small donations.

                  It took me 5 mins to look it up

                  LET ME SAYING IT AGAIN LOUDER, YOU ARE A DEEPLY DEEPLY UNSERIOUS PERSON WHO PLAYS POLITICS AND PROPAGANDA ON THE BACK OF STARVING CHILDREN.

                  you should be truly ashamed of yourself and head back to history class. I’m not even gonna touch on that charismatic-Obama take because I think I’m gonna vomit.

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                    Bro chill also you’ve got to be joking that a few hundred bucks from a pro Israel lobby makes her “funded by the same people” bruh I can’t Bernie is a Zionist but he’s also old as hell and he would still be a much better president than any of the candidates we have had in the past few elections