Lactose in enough quantities gets my tummy rumbling in a bad way so I’m trying out alternatives.
Oat milk in hipster coffee drinks is pretty good.
Soy milk as a protein and calcium beverage is fine. Tastes OK.
There is lactose-free milk too but that is still suspect. Either it’s not all the way lactose free or too much of any kind of dairy quakes my intestines.
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For me I found it wasn’t the lactose, but the amount of fat in the milk that gave me the rumblies. Eating certain dishes with a lots of fat gave me the same sort of feeling.
I’ll keep an eye out for that. I am trying to put on weight so I do end up eating a lot of fat. Maybe I switch them out for more carbs.
Nice. Good luck!
Best of luck to you!
I’ve tried a few different diets for the opposite reason.
Fat alone makes me feel stuffed and not wanting to eat enough.
Carbs+fat makes it really easy for me to eat too much.
I seem to recall that fat intake is not as “fattening” as carb intake. Both the carbs and fat you eat are used for energy first, which means that your body has to process the fats into carbs first - which takes energy itself. The surplus of either is converted and stored as fat.
Carbs also have to be broken down in to sugars. It’s just a lot easier to do than with fat. Ketosis is a bit more complicated than just lopping off glucose from large chains.
The problem with too much fat in a diet is that is screws with your cardio system by gunking it up. (greatly simplifying of course but meh, lazy today)
Yes, I was going to say generally milk labeled as lactose-free really shouldn’t have any noticeable amounts of lactose in it, so if someone’s still having trouble then lactose might not be the cause. I have heard relatively recently about something called A2 milk that doesn’t have an A1 protein which is found primarily in cow’s milk but not in as many other mammalian milk, including not in human milk. It looks like it might help some people for whom lactose-free cow’s milk still doesn’t solve digestion issues, but the evidence might not be very conclusive. I haven’t tried it myself; lactose-free works for me.
i have ibs so it makes those things more intense for me, i get the same thing with milk, plus i think im mildly lactose intolerant. something like “flavoured” milk doesnt cause a reaction though,
High fat diets can help facilitate LPS (a bad, fat-soluble, inflammatory molecule) from gram negative bacteria in the gut into the bloodstream which can heighten systemic inflammation (endotoxemia). I feel as though that’s a common issue these days that not many people may know about.
Look into bile acid malabsorption (BAM). It’s surprisingly common. In the U.S. you don’t commonly use the SeHCAT machines so they prescribe cholestyramine and see if it helps. Give it a go. Very few side effects and you have a lot to gain if it works. Plus if you take it long term you actually reduce your cholesterol levels.
oat milk is my go-to milk alternative, I didn’t like soy milk, nor almond milk. But it’s such a shame that 1 liter of oat milk costs nearly 3 times as much as 1 liter of ‘regular’ milk.
I say it’s the fat content that make it my favorite
If you end up liking oat milk you should try making it yourself. It’s ridiculously cheap and easy. It doesn’t last nearly as long without the preservatives of store bought, but you can stagger making small batches to match your usage if needed.
I said goodbye to cow’s milk decades ago. My tip: mix oat milk & soy milk 50/50. Don’t drink “Barista” oat/soy milk on its own, it tastes weird.
Soy milk from an asian grocery store tastes a lot better. Buy the ones that have chinese text on them and make sure it’s the refrigerated and perishable kind. Get the organic ones if you can afford it.
Trust me, Chinese people have been perfecting soy milk for thousands of years. It’s thoroughly cooked and processed to remove that raw bean taste and weird texture that I’ve had in a lot of American brands like Silk.
almond milk? theres cashew milk, and macadamia milk. theres also Lactose-free milk. certain health food grocery stories will sell the alternative milks, theres also rice milk.
What I do is take lactose tablets when I have dairy.
Worth a try. I miss pizza.
I’m not a vegan or vegetarian, so that’s my disclaimer.
I’ve tried numerous “milk alternatives” over the years, and many different brands of each. That’s particularly true for soy milk since there are so many brands in the USA and it’s been commonly, and easily available in my region for 3+ decades.
Based on that, I have to say that soy milk is, for me, consistently my least favorite option in terms of taste.
Of the easily available stuff, almond milk is my favorite, but I see so much hate for it online in terms of environmental harm that I finally just said fuck it, I’m going back to real milk, at least it’s cheaper.
My favorite that I’ve tried so far was hemp milk. I don’t recall the brand but years ago I found a brand that did chocolate hemp seed milk that was so good I swear they must’ve put a dab of fentanyl or nicotine in it to keep people coming back.
Don’t buy into the anti-almond milk bullshit, it’s propaganda. It still takes about 3x less water to produce per gallon than dairy milk, and that’s not accounting for the numerous other ecological issues with cattle farming. It may have a higher environmental cost than other plant milks, but it’s still leagues better than going back to cow juice.
It still takes about 3x less water to produce per gallon than dairy milk,
I haven’t found compelling evidence to support this claim
What compelling evidence leads you to believe otherwise? Dairy industry propaganda based on a single study during the height of a massive drought in California that you half read 5 years ago?
https://www.agroinvestspain.com/debunking-a-myth-almond-water-footprint/
Here’s a decent overview. If you haven’t found ‘compelling evidence’ it’s because you haven’t bothered to look.
this paper doesn’t show the methodology for determining the water footprint of dairy milk.
What compelling evidence leads you to believe otherwise?
I simply suspend judgement until I have good reason to believe one way or the other
If you haven’t found ‘compelling evidence’ it’s because you haven’t bothered to look.
I have looked. everything I found has been myopic.
“Full fat” Oatly. This is the way.
Fwiw, my kid grew up with a dairy allergy. Most of it was soy milk, but he likes oat milk much more. Probably doesn’t help that we always got unsweetened soy milk
I still have issues with lactose free milk too. I suspect it’s the A1 beta-casein. Australia has a really common breed of cows which make A2 beta-casein which has proline instead of histadine.
I agree: I’ve settled on soy and I’m okay with it.
I always thought soy milk was pretty good, once I got past the fact that it tastes different. It’s different, not bad, but I feel like there has been about four decades worth of jokes about how soy milk is gross that has cemented the idea that it tastes “off” for many people.
It’s actually pretty easy to make yourself, too. I do that now and then. Makes it even more satisfying to drink.
I’m not certified lactose intolerant, but I take lactaid/lactase enzyme when I eat a bunch of pizza or other lactose-heavy meals. It really helps in general, even if you are not totally intolerant. I use oatmilk for coffee bc I think it tastes sweet enough not to use sugar too.
I’ve tried soy, almond, rice, and oat milk. Of those oat milk is the only one that doesn’t taste or feel off to me, but it gives me the gut gurgles. Oh well, I was never big on milk as anything but a vehicle for cereal.
Does oatmeal give you any trouble?
I have a feeling it could be some of the additives in oat milk that are the culprit.
Usually not at all! I haven’t looked into any of the additives but that wouldn’t surprise me.
